The Beauty of Imperfection

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​Greetings and salutations.

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Welcome to, sorry.

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That's my inside voice.

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I'm your host Ka Garcia, and in this episode you get to listen to me sit down with my friend Ashley, and we talk about her big life transition this summer.

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And bullet journaling, which I am very envious of.

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But Ashley, who makes gorgeous, gorgeous.

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Bullet journal layouts, and they just, they're so functional.

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She's going to be making me my very own bullet journal, and we kind of talk about that in the episode.

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So I hope you enjoy our chat.

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Uh, we had a lot of fun talking, and yes, there are cat cameos in this one, so prepare yourselves.

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are you excited to record your first actual podcast episode, Ashley?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I'm Ashley.

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Uh, This is my first time ever doing anything like this, um, but that's okay.

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I am a mom, a wife, a school counselor.

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An avid bullet.

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Journaler.

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I help my friends with their bullet journaling needs.

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Um, want to be homesteader.

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I guess slash like MultiGen, new multigenerational home liver.

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My whole life has changed this summer and my summer ended up different than what I thought it was gonna be because Ash was working and Ash is my husband.

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We have the same name.

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For reference ash squared.

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Um, he was working instead of being home.

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And then my in-laws didn't get here until like a week and a half ago.

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And so I originally thought they were gonna be here at the end of June.

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So it just made everything different.

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Not bad,

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just different.

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Just different.

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So, but it's been, it's been a good transition, but I was a lot busier this summer than I thought I was gonna be.

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Yeah.

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What, so let's talk about transitions.

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What, what is the most, uh, unexpected transition that's happened this year or even the summer for smaller time period?

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I can't believe summer's already over.

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I'm sad.

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I'm not, I'm not sad about the hot weather being over.

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Fair.

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You also had a big 2025 has been a big year for a lot of people.

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Yeah.

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In different ways.

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Um, I feel like I thought through most of the transitions.

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Honestly, the one that I didn't expect is the one at work.

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Um, so in my, there's four counselors, four school counselors in my high school that I work at, and one of them went from working at the high school to working at the alternative school.

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And, and the, I didn't anticipate initially when we were both vying for the job.

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What it would feel like when she took the job and I stayed.

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Oh, yeah.

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And how hard that was going to be.

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And how much I was gonna miss just her presence in the, in the, in our space.

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Um,'cause she was like my work wife.

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Yeah.

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And she and I had very, like, very similar ways of working and very similar perspectives.

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And so just not having her there these last couple weeks.

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Has been difficult.

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Yeah.

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It's'cause it's, I feel like it's different when you know the change is gonna happen versus experiencing the results of the change.

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Yeah.

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It was a lot louder than I think I had prepared myself for.

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Yeah.

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I am usually better at preparing myself for those sorts of transitions.

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Yeah.

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Uh,'cause I do know that they affect me.

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Um, but yeah, I dunno.

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It's weird.

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Well, it's like you were saying, you know, you thought through all the different things that were happening this year, but that was just the one that you didn't see coming, and it's also not the only big transition this year or this summer.

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Uh, do you wanna talk about that a little bit?

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Um, so my, my in-laws moved in with us from Minnesota over the summer.

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And they have four children that they adopted, and they are between the ages of 13 and 18.

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And they're, they're the sweetest kids.

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They're amazing children.

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Um, and having them be there with my kids has been awesome,

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How many of you are there in the house now?

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11.

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11?

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Yeah.

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We have 11 right now.

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We'll have 13 eventually, but right now it's just 11.

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Does it feel like there's 11 people?

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No.

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That's awesome.

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It doesn't,

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I mean, that's a big space.

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It is, is inside the house is a big space and there's lots of spaces for them to be, um, and outside is, there's so many areas for people to hang out.

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It might feel a little different when the weather gets cooler and more people are inside.

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But honestly, we have so many other spaces and they're so mild in Oregon, I don't think.

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I think it'll be very limited amount of time that we feel cramped.

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Yeah, I mean, even when it gets quote unquote Oregon cold, like we could just put a heater outside on the back patio and everyone's just gonna be out there anyways, so it'll be cozy.

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Okay.

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Yeah

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it's good though.

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It's a big transition.

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Mm-hmm.

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It was a, it was a big transition.

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It was,

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but it's been a good one for you guys

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so far.

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Yay.

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There'll be growing pains.

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Oh yeah.

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They're always are.

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There'll be, there'll be moments where I know I'll be like, oh my gosh.

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Mm-hmm.

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This is hard.

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Yeah.

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But that's the way it goes no matter what.

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Yeah.

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And and it already sounds like you're getting so much support

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mm-hmm.

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That you didn't have before.

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Yeah.

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Which is so cool.

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And it's just,

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it really is.

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It's, it sounds like it's been really just organic.

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Mm-hmm.

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The way things have come, it's like, oh, well I'm gonna, I'm gonna take on this.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like you were talking about the laundry.

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Yeah.

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Like, that's amazing.

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I love that for you guys.

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Yeah.

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And even with like school stuff where it's just like, oh, I'm good at this'cause I work in schools and I know how this functions, so I'm gonna kind of take over the schooling for all seven kids rather than having, you know, mom having to figure it out and she doesn't know how it works and doesn't know who to call.

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And I know what questions to ask and Ash is, you know,

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and the way to ask them.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and it doesn't hurt that we're friends with the registrar at the high school, so that has made things even easier.

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Yeah.

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But there's lots of other pieces.

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Right.

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And so, um, I think once we get going in school too, it'll be like, I'll be able to add to the structure by saying, okay, every Wednesday night we're gonna sit down and we're gonna have grade check.

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Yeah,

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for all the old, like older kids, middle school and high school kids all get grade check.

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Wednesday nights we're gonna go through and like you sit down with me and we're gonna look at your grades and you're missing assignments, make sure you're on track.

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It's like, if you're having a hard time, let's figure it out.

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Yeah.

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We'll work together to figure out how to get you help and all that kind of stuff where like.

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Monica would be like, I don't even know how to like, download the app to check their grades.

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And I already have it on my phone.

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Yeah.

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You're like, I got this.

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Well, it's, I love, I love the way that you guys get to support one another.

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Mm-hmm.

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That's been really cool to see and I'm so excited for you guys.

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So the other thing we were gonna talk about is bullet journaling, which you've been doing for a long time, it feels like now.

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Um, and like the things that we found that we like in journals, but.

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Like they never had all the things we wanted.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And I, I really, I really love the flexibility of making my own, um,'cause I can provide the structure that I need during the super busy times of the year, which are fairly predictable in my world based on like my kids' activities and.

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And my work schedule but it also gives me a chance every year to do something different, which I, I like doing different things.

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I like having things change.

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I get bored if things are too similar too many times, so I couldn't, that's, I think that's why I didn't like buying the same kind of planner.

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Yeah.

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Every year.

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Was because I was just like, well now I'm bored with this layout and I want something different.

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Yeah.

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So, and now with this you can set it up.

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So every month is different.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it's been fun to see your creativity cha like grow and change with it too.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like I remember watching you work on it at your birthday weekend, and I'm just like, I could have just sat there and watched you work on your planner all day.

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I mean, I did do that.

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A couple times, but not like the whole day.

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Yeah.

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Well I didn't do it the whole day,

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but then I had to go get in the pool.

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Yeah.

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It was such a chore, man.

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So rough.

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So rough.

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What about the bullet journals helps your brain?

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Like does it help you like brain dump?

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Does it help you stay organized, like out of your head and in your head?

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I'm always interested to hear like why people find.

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The solution that works for them.

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Mm-hmm.

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Work for them.

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That's a terrible way to say that.

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It, I understand what you mean though.

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It, it helps me because I'm, yes.

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I'm able to get it out of my head and on paper so I don't have to like, sit and like ruminate on it.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Um, especially if I'm like trying to work on something.

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I'm at work or whatever, I can be like, oh, I need to do this.

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I write it down to my planner.

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And then I can move on.

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Um, but it also gives me one place that everything is, and I think that's been the most helpful and I can get everything that I need to know and reference and, and look at in one.

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One spot.

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Yeah.

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So I don't have to look in a bunch of different places.

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Um, this year I've come to terms with the fact that I have a DHD

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way to go.

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It's been a journey, but we here you

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proud of you.

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Um, and I am apt to forget things and loose things if they aren't in front of my head.

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And so or in front of my face, and so I know.

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If I write it down on the planner, it's always gonna be here.

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And I, and I have it organized in a way that I know where I'm gonna put it and I can, it's either gonna be here or here and

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Yeah.

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So like if something's happening, all of a sudden you're like, oh, I need remember to do this.

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You know where in your planner?

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Mm-hmm.

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You would put that information so later you're like, oh, what was that thing?

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Oh, I need to do this.

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But where was the time or the date?

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And you know where to go to find that.

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Yeah.

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And I cannot count how many times just in the last week.

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Right.

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We're prepping to go to back to school and we've got.

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Seven kids instead of three now.

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And so there's a lot of moving parts.

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And he was like, well, what time does this school start and need to drop off?

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And what time this?

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And I was like, I don't know, but I, it's in my planner.

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I don't have my planner with me right now, but it's in my planner.

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I don't remember.

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So I don't have to keep it in my head,

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which so freeze up your brain space,

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up my brain space to do other things and to stay focused on other things rather than stressing about the stuff that like.

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I don't need to stress about'cause it's not happening yet.

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Yeah.

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You're like the salient details.

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They don't escape me.

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They go into the planner.

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Right.

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So, and then I get to do, keep track of the fun things too and the like entertaining pieces of life and um, and also, you know, like sketch and draw and during those, I don't know if any of you are teachers or in the world of education, we do professional development for the first.

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Three days of the school year when we come back and as someone who is not a teacher, they are almost never relevant to what I do with my job specifically.

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Um, and so I have drawings like actual sketching all over my, the first couple pages of September because I can't focus.

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Well, yeah, it was, it was fun watching you like flip through because you've got pages where you've.

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Put in coloring sheets or you've left to like just doodle to your brain's content.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it's really cool.

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Yeah.

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And when we were talking earlier, so, so Ashley is building me a planner.

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So excited.

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She, she's so excited.

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I.

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Tried a digital planner.

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Some of you may have seen on the internet how I was like, give me your suggestions for digital plan.

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That lasted like not even a week.

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It might've lasted a weekend'cause it got overwhelming and it didn't have all the things that I wanted that I didn't know I wanted or needed.

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And so Ashley, who is like the journaling, like planner extraordinaire, I text her and I was like, Hey.

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Um, Ellie says, I should get some stencils that you got.

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Uh, and then we started talking.

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She's like, do you, do you want me to make it for you?

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And I was like, okay.

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As I'm like crying, reading that message on my couch with a cat, like, because it's so overwhelming for my brain, it's like I look and I go, there are so many options.

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Mm-hmm.

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And.

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Then my brain just goes into just like overwhelm.

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It's like, well, I'm just gonna stop and not worry about that.

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But Ashley is gonna make me a planner.

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So today she was going through and asking me lots of questions, but it's so fun to like, see, we were talking about how this is how you see someone else's brain work.

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Yeah.

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Which is really cool and what their priorities are.

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Right.

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And like how.

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Like it's so individual.

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Yeah, because you know, for Kat, we're talking about pages for knitting and pages for school and for podcasting and all of that stuff that like for me, isn't a part of my regular stuff.

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But for her are really important pieces that she wants to be able to have in her planner and then we can customize it.

00:15:26.067 --> 00:15:35.157
So I don't know, I'm, we'll see how it goes with doing yours, but maybe it's gonna be one of those things where I like open up, like

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I vote yes.

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Custom planning for like planners, for people.

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I vote yes.

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It's gonna be expensive'cause it's gonna take some time.

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Yeah.

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But that's okay.

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We'll, we'll get you there.

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It's gonna be good.

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We'll, we'll see.

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We'll see how it goes first.

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Yeah, that's gonna be my Guinea pig.

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And then we'll see how, how she likes it.

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I love the Guinea pig.

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I'm, I'm a Guinea pig for multiple things right now, and I love it.

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I'm a Guinea pig for, for this, I'm a Guinea pig for my internship.

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'cause where I'm doing my internship, they've never done interns before.

00:16:02.381 --> 00:16:02.532
Mm-hmm.

00:16:03.282 --> 00:16:04.361
So they're like, you're a Guinea pig.

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I'm like, I love being a Guinea pig.

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Let's go.

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You know, let's find what works well.

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And this whole process for me has been one big, like, well, we'll see if this works kind of a thing.

00:16:14.351 --> 00:16:15.152
So I'm like, well, what's one more.

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So, and I'm hoping now that I don't have to be the only one taking care of a house, that I will have more time to do things like that.

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In my free time,

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you'll have free time.

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I know.

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Does that feel weird?

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I don't have to like, sacrifice having a clean house to have free time.

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Yeah.

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It, it is, it's very strange.

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I feel like I should be doing more, but like everything is.

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Getting done.

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I mean, there's stuff, there's lots of things to do, but we all just moved in.

00:16:45.721 --> 00:16:48.422
So like, that's just the way that it is.

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Well, and I think the fact that you all moved into a new house, so it wasn't, it wasn't like somebody was moving into somebody else's space that was already established, was really helpful for you guys all going through this transition.

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I.

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Yeah, it's been good.

00:17:06.310 --> 00:17:06.490
Yeah.

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But it does change my, the structure of my tasks and my daily priorities shift from.

00:17:16.810 --> 00:17:24.101
Trying to keep house cleaning and chores as a part of my regular like list of things that I had to do.

00:17:24.101 --> 00:17:29.530
And so it changed what my bullet journal this year looks like.

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What are you noticing are like the biggest changes or the most significant I guess changes

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for like with living with everybody.

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Living with everybody.

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And then how that's like impacted your journal.

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'cause I know you said that.

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I think you said at your birthday weekend, like you'll go back and look at last year's journal and see if there were, like, if there was something that you really liked, how you did it

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Yeah.

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Or whatever.

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Um, I haven't actually used my planner yet fully, so I did sort of last week.

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Yeah.

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That was the first week that I like actually had it in this book.

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Mm-hmm.

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But it wasn't in the month of September yet.

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My planner doesn't start until September because my world functions around the school calendar,

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which makes sense.

00:18:15.740 --> 00:18:15.951
Yeah.

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You've got seven children at home.

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Yes.

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And you're a school counselor.

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And a school counselor, so like, yeah.

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My, my life.

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That makes sense.

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But even that, right?

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I, I was like, oh, I'm in the start at the beginning of September, and then I was like, no, I actually need to start it two weeks before.

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Yeah,

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the last two weeks of August.

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That's when I go back to work.

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Was this first year you've really done that?

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It's the first year I was organized enough to have it to start at the beginning of the summer.

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Yeah.

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And like fully plan it out.

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Okay.

00:18:47.750 --> 00:18:53.691
I did have it planned out last summer, but then I ended up needing to get a new planner.

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Oh yeah.

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In like October.

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'cause the one that I had like fell apart.

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I remember that

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because it wasn't spiral bound.

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Yeah.

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So I had to redo it, but.

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So this year I felt a lot more confident.

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I also know a little bit better of what I wanted it to look like.

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Yeah.

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So, but I think, I think there's still be there.

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There will still be pieces of this that I think I'm probably gonna be like, oh, I wish I hadn't done this page.

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'cause this isn't functioning.

00:19:29.721 --> 00:19:29.871
Mm-hmm.

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Um,

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what do you do when you find that?

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Just use a different page or do you like cover that page with something else?

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I usually will try to repurpose it in a way.

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So, um, I use a lot of whiteout, so I'll probably.

00:19:52.971 --> 00:19:57.351
It's, it's not my favorite to like white out the whole page

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Yeah.

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Worth of stuff, but I will if I have to.

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Yeah.

00:20:00.290 --> 00:20:09.500
Um, but a lot of the pages, I, uh, the ones that I was not really sure how they would function, I draw the boxes and then I just leave it there.

00:20:10.010 --> 00:20:10.411
Oh, okay.

00:20:11.185 --> 00:20:11.846
You just kinda live with it.

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I don't label it.

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I don't, I just kind of, especially when it gets to the later months.

00:20:16.986 --> 00:20:22.385
So up until Christmas time, I try to have that more or well, until New Year's actually.

00:20:22.836 --> 00:20:39.905
I try to have that all right now because it gets so busy in my world, typically between school and then my two of my girls do dance and the other one does theater and, and I don't know, the older kids may or may not do other activities as well.

00:20:39.905 --> 00:20:42.276
I don't know, but it just gets really crazy and so.

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The first four months of the school year, I like to have very, like all the details filled in and things done as much as possible.

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'cause I know I won't have as much time to, to fill in the gaps.

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But then after winter break, uh, it's a lot more blank.

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Yeah.

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Not fully blank, but there's more boxes Without titles,

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it's more open.

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It's more open.

00:21:06.921 --> 00:21:07.355
So I can.

00:21:09.080 --> 00:21:10.701
Go back and say, oh, this worked really well.

00:21:10.701 --> 00:21:13.671
I'm gonna keep doing this, or Oh, I'm gonna change this up.

00:21:15.141 --> 00:21:22.611
Um, and I always run the risk of not utilizing all the space.

00:21:22.881 --> 00:21:23.060
Yeah.

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But that's also okay.

00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:27.351
Yeah.

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I've like, that's one of the big things of doing bullet journaling that I've worked hard on accepting.

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One things don't have to look perfect.

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Mm-hmm.

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And they don't have to be beautiful.

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Yeah.

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To be beautiful.

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Yeah.

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If that makes sense.

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Beauty and imperfection.

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Yeah.

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And so I can make mistakes on it and I can either fix them or leave them and I can leave things blank and not use a page for a month.

00:22:01.685 --> 00:22:02.465
And it's okay.

00:22:02.961 --> 00:22:02.990
Okay.

00:22:03.560 --> 00:22:08.421
And it's doesn't mean that like I am wasting money or whatever.

00:22:08.421 --> 00:22:12.711
It just, it's like, oh, this didn't function for me this year, or I didn't need as many pages

00:22:12.770 --> 00:22:13.070
yeah,

00:22:13.280 --> 00:22:20.601
this month because it maybe wasn't as crazy or it, I just had a, a handle on the situation a lot better.

00:22:20.601 --> 00:22:21.230
I don't know.

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Um.

00:22:22.865 --> 00:22:26.976
And I, I tend not to put work things in my planner as much.

00:22:27.185 --> 00:22:27.425
Yeah.

00:22:27.546 --> 00:22:35.256
But I also wonder if that might change as well, since I'm again not the only adult in the house managing the household stuff.

00:22:35.355 --> 00:22:43.115
So I may have more room, like physical room in my planner to do like, you know, like forecasting planning or, uh, like,

00:22:43.865 --> 00:22:46.385
like I need to start working on this.

00:22:46.385 --> 00:22:49.726
Like, I'm not gonna say the G word right now'cause it's.

00:22:50.135 --> 00:22:50.855
September.

00:22:51.425 --> 00:22:54.935
But like when graduation, when you get closer,

00:22:54.935 --> 00:22:56.375
I don't do anything for graduation.

00:22:56.645 --> 00:22:57.336
Thank God.

00:22:57.786 --> 00:22:58.746
I just show up.

00:22:59.195 --> 00:22:59.796
That's good.

00:22:59.796 --> 00:23:01.596
But like you start emotionally Yeah.

00:23:01.655 --> 00:23:05.526
You emotionally support your, your kids a little differently as it gets closer to graduation.

00:23:05.526 --> 00:23:10.506
So you like that's something you could put in there, like, oh, more tissues in my office.

00:23:10.506 --> 00:23:10.566
Yeah.

00:23:10.566 --> 00:23:11.556
Or you know, whatever.

00:23:11.586 --> 00:23:11.855
Right?

00:23:11.945 --> 00:23:12.816
Yeah, exactly.

00:23:12.905 --> 00:23:13.236
Yeah.

00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:14.721
Yeah.

00:23:14.721 --> 00:23:17.330
And I'm pretty careful about like student names and stuff.

00:23:17.330 --> 00:23:18.351
Don't go in my planner.

00:23:18.381 --> 00:23:18.441
Yeah.

00:23:18.441 --> 00:23:21.711
Because this planner goes everywhere with me and I don't protect it.

00:23:21.711 --> 00:23:23.570
Like I would protect student information.

00:23:23.570 --> 00:23:24.201
So like, yeah.

00:23:24.201 --> 00:23:25.250
Hipaa, ferpa.

00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:25.790
Yeah.

00:23:26.151 --> 00:23:27.080
Not hipaa, ferpa.

00:23:27.471 --> 00:23:28.250
Well, yes.

00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:30.675
That's why I was like I said hipaa and then I'm like, not FERPA too.

00:23:30.955 --> 00:23:31.115
Ferpa.

00:23:31.161 --> 00:23:32.030
Ferpa.

00:23:32.090 --> 00:23:35.090
Uh, at least until I actually become a therapist.

00:23:35.090 --> 00:23:36.590
And then, then it'll be hipaa.

00:23:36.830 --> 00:23:38.181
Yay.

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.550
Um, your stint in medical records will.

00:23:41.060 --> 00:23:42.201
Do you, do you prep?

00:23:44.121 --> 00:23:53.901
Um, but yeah, it's, it definitely changes how I look at my planner and I'm sure will change how it functions as time goes on.

00:23:54.740 --> 00:24:07.280
Um, how do you feel, or do you feel, I guess, that bullet journaling, how do you feel like that has impacted life for you?

00:24:09.066 --> 00:24:11.375
In a lot of ways it makes it more manageable.

00:24:14.645 --> 00:24:25.836
I think one of my biggest things that I, one of the reasons why I like bullet journaling as much as I do is I get to celebrate my wins.

00:24:26.316 --> 00:24:26.796
Yeah.

00:24:26.855 --> 00:24:28.746
In the way that makes sense for me.

00:24:29.316 --> 00:24:36.695
So like in every, I love lists, I love checking things off, but I also like, um.

00:24:40.925 --> 00:24:42.756
Easy games and easy wins.

00:24:42.875 --> 00:24:42.965
Yeah.

00:24:43.655 --> 00:24:44.766
So like, uh,

00:24:44.766 --> 00:24:46.536
it doesn't always have to be like hard,

00:24:46.596 --> 00:24:47.076
right?

00:24:47.076 --> 00:24:47.316
Yeah.

00:24:47.526 --> 00:25:04.685
So one of the things that's, that I found really fun and rewarding in the last couple years of Bull I started at the very beginning was I do monthly, like bingo games where I focus on tasks and things that either, some of them are hard for me to do.

00:25:04.685 --> 00:25:05.141
Some of them are.

00:25:05.796 --> 00:25:11.076
Things that I know that I will do because of the time of the year, and I'll put work things and home things there.

00:25:11.645 --> 00:25:23.496
Um, and then I just like can check off when I've done the things on the Bingo card and I, and every month is different based on the season.

00:25:23.496 --> 00:25:27.756
So I'll do some like, um, like during the winter time, you know, things like.

00:25:29.256 --> 00:25:35.465
Bake something or go to a pumpkin patch or you know, stuff that's kind of like bucket list.

00:25:35.465 --> 00:25:35.855
Yeah.

00:25:35.885 --> 00:25:36.996
Winter things.

00:25:37.056 --> 00:25:44.736
Um, I'll put things like, you know, do a date with one of my kids or go on a, like a date with my husband or things like that that I know

00:25:44.736 --> 00:25:47.290
or hang out with Cat and Ellie on a random Sunday, you know,

00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:49.655
that also is on there frequently.

00:25:50.256 --> 00:25:55.986
Um, so that there's things that like I know I'm doing to take care of myself.

00:25:56.556 --> 00:26:03.635
And also just by like crossing it off, I'm like, I accomplished something.

00:26:03.935 --> 00:26:05.976
Gives you a nice little serotonin boost there.

00:26:05.976 --> 00:26:18.875
It does, and it's, but it's all like all for the good of the, my mental health and making sure that I remember that on the days that I feel like I can't do anything.

00:26:18.875 --> 00:26:19.506
Right.

00:26:19.685 --> 00:26:19.986
Yeah.

00:26:20.165 --> 00:26:21.965
That I'm still doing things right.

00:26:22.445 --> 00:26:22.655
Yeah.

00:26:23.615 --> 00:26:24.875
So that makes sense.

00:26:25.415 --> 00:26:25.625
Yeah.

00:26:26.705 --> 00:26:27.871
And it doesn't hurt too that I get.

00:26:29.840 --> 00:26:32.330
A lot of people are very impressed by my book journal.

00:26:33.590 --> 00:26:34.550
Uh, yes.

00:26:34.550 --> 00:26:35.060
That would be me.

00:26:35.060 --> 00:26:42.306
Also, I may or may not have intentionally opened it and showed it off to all of the counselors in my department the other day, and I,

00:26:42.951 --> 00:26:43.310
and you should, it's awesome.

00:26:43.310 --> 00:26:45.980
Very clearly told them, I am fishing for compliments.

00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:46.971
Look at how pretty this is.

00:26:48.165 --> 00:26:52.820
And that's okay to do'cause it is pretty, I love just looking through your planner.

00:26:52.851 --> 00:26:56.211
They also told me that they're like, it is impressive and it's okay.

00:26:56.826 --> 00:26:57.965
We will validate that.

00:26:57.965 --> 00:26:58.326
Yes.

00:26:58.326 --> 00:26:59.171
It's, it's amazing

00:26:59.191 --> 00:27:02.226
and it's, it's one of those things that, for me, I'm like, Ooh, what have you done new?

00:27:02.226 --> 00:27:03.756
So I'll, I'll look through.

00:27:03.875 --> 00:27:08.145
I don't pay attention to any of thing that you write in there, but I'm like, look at it.

00:27:08.145 --> 00:27:10.776
It's like at, because why would you, it doesn't, it's like look at the pretty pictures.

00:27:11.556 --> 00:27:12.635
Well, and it's only for me.

00:27:12.695 --> 00:27:12.996
Yeah,

00:27:13.026 --> 00:27:13.266
right.

00:27:13.266 --> 00:27:15.096
It's not for anyone else to look at Ash.

00:27:15.096 --> 00:27:22.715
And I have, like, on our phones, we both have Apple and so we have our Apple calendar that we track family stuff and events.

00:27:22.715 --> 00:27:25.746
So like I, that's what I use to communicate things to him.

00:27:26.060 --> 00:27:26.181
Yeah.

00:27:26.181 --> 00:27:26.990
That he needs to know

00:27:26.990 --> 00:27:29.240
because he is not at all a planner person.

00:27:29.330 --> 00:27:30.230
No, not at all.

00:27:30.230 --> 00:27:32.240
And that's fine because it doesn't work for him.

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:32.510
Yep.

00:27:33.260 --> 00:27:42.621
But for him, he, that's how we make sure that we're on the same page with stuff for ourselves and for the kids and this, but this planner is just for me.

00:27:43.010 --> 00:27:43.280
Yeah.

00:27:43.550 --> 00:27:50.421
And, um, and so it, it's like, well, and my form of self care,

00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.205
and it brings you joy to work on it.

00:27:52.836 --> 00:27:57.726
Like you, you told me that you got like giddy, happy when I said yes.

00:27:57.786 --> 00:27:59.226
If you would make me a journal.

00:27:59.435 --> 00:27:59.496
Yeah.

00:27:59.796 --> 00:28:04.506
'cause I was sad because I was done doing like the basic outline of my planner.

00:28:04.506 --> 00:28:12.756
Now I don't have any like, I mean I have stuff to add to it, but it's like the detail pieces that I'll fill in along the way.

00:28:12.756 --> 00:28:12.816
Yeah.

00:28:13.566 --> 00:28:16.296
Um, and at this point, if that feels overwhelming.

00:28:16.865 --> 00:28:17.135
Yeah.

00:28:17.435 --> 00:28:19.865
Like filling in the second page of my weekly spread.

00:28:20.316 --> 00:28:21.695
'cause one side is the days.

00:28:22.415 --> 00:28:23.496
And all of that stuff.

00:28:23.826 --> 00:28:27.036
And the other side is more unstructured, and so that feels overwhelming to me.

00:28:27.036 --> 00:28:29.076
So I'm just not gonna do it yet because

00:28:30.036 --> 00:28:30.246
Yeah.

00:28:30.455 --> 00:28:31.205
I'm not ready to,

00:28:31.355 --> 00:28:31.536
yeah.

00:28:31.536 --> 00:28:32.675
I don't know what I want it to look like.

00:28:32.675 --> 00:28:33.036
So

00:28:34.385 --> 00:28:36.486
you're like, I can deal with that later.

00:28:36.486 --> 00:28:41.286
Yeah, that's a, that's a later Ashley problem, but not today, probably.

00:28:41.286 --> 00:28:41.330
I love that.

00:28:41.705 --> 00:28:42.935
So, yeah.

00:28:43.655 --> 00:28:50.046
What pages do you find to be the most helpful for you, and what have you found to be the least helpful?

00:28:51.306 --> 00:28:58.566
Uh, least helpful is anything that talks about goals, specifically using the word goals.

00:28:58.685 --> 00:28:59.945
Fucking goals, man.

00:29:00.006 --> 00:29:09.185
Um, I think it's because I've been in education for so long that the words goals make me feel like they have to like, be really structured.

00:29:09.185 --> 00:29:11.885
And this planner is not about structure.

00:29:11.885 --> 00:29:12.006
It is.

00:29:13.476 --> 00:29:16.415
That's actually, it is exactly, it is about structure.

00:29:16.806 --> 00:29:21.786
It's about the kind of structure that I need to function on a daily basis, and I don't need the structure of goals.

00:29:22.205 --> 00:29:24.546
It doesn't work for me because I have,

00:29:24.546 --> 00:29:25.300
it makes me anxious

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.346
and I can't plan ahead that far.

00:29:29.526 --> 00:29:31.355
My therapist latch

00:29:31.355 --> 00:29:32.826
with my internal impulses.

00:29:32.826 --> 00:29:33.605
Yeah, it just doesn't work.

00:29:33.605 --> 00:29:34.385
No, we laugh.

00:29:34.385 --> 00:29:38.500
Well we, I just tell her I'm not setting goals and then we laugh and she laughs and she's like.

00:29:39.351 --> 00:29:40.820
The first time she was like, oh, you're serious.

00:29:40.820 --> 00:29:42.411
I'm like, I don't set goals.

00:29:42.621 --> 00:29:44.840
I don't do resolutions.

00:29:45.050 --> 00:29:45.290
Yeah.

00:29:45.530 --> 00:29:54.260
I have this year and absolutely I am aware that as I say this, it is in fact a goal, but I'm not using that word.

00:29:54.381 --> 00:29:55.250
That's a bad word.

00:29:55.250 --> 00:30:07.580
I'm like, I wanna learn to do this this year, or I want to, what's, what is one of the things I, oh, I want to play more games this year, more board games, and I have done that, but it's not like.

00:30:08.016 --> 00:30:09.365
Like that, measurable, like it's not

00:30:10.145 --> 00:30:10.596
right.

00:30:10.836 --> 00:30:11.135
Yeah.

00:30:11.316 --> 00:30:13.026
And that's exactly it.

00:30:13.026 --> 00:30:19.205
So like I have things in my planner that ask me questions like, what are you going to focus on?

00:30:20.615 --> 00:30:21.546
I know that's a goal.

00:30:21.726 --> 00:30:32.405
I am, I'm aware that that is what that question is asking, but my brain can answer that question and not put the pressure on myself.

00:30:32.405 --> 00:30:33.846
Like the word goal would.

00:30:33.905 --> 00:30:33.965
Yeah.

00:30:34.715 --> 00:30:44.615
Because it's more fluid and it can be whatever I need it to be because I, I have that question every month at the beginning of every month, and it can be whatever I need it to be.

00:30:44.615 --> 00:30:48.516
So it can be something as simple as take it one day at a time.

00:30:49.026 --> 00:30:49.355
Yeah.

00:30:50.046 --> 00:31:02.675
It can be also as structured as I want it, as I'm going to go and do CrossFit one day a week for the entire month if that's what I need for that month to help me.

00:31:04.580 --> 00:31:09.260
Do what I want to do and what's good for my body and my mental health at that point in time.

00:31:09.260 --> 00:31:14.931
Well, and I feel like it, it move like the success or failure Yes.

00:31:14.931 --> 00:31:17.691
Aspect when you're not using the word goal.

00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:17.840
Mm-hmm.

00:31:18.681 --> 00:31:21.260
Because it's, then it's not like, did I accomplish it?

00:31:21.260 --> 00:31:22.131
Yes or no?

00:31:22.490 --> 00:31:23.931
It's, did I focus on it?

00:31:23.931 --> 00:31:24.471
Yes.

00:31:24.471 --> 00:31:25.760
I may not have done it.

00:31:26.405 --> 00:31:26.586
Right.

00:31:26.586 --> 00:31:30.185
But I, instead of going zero times this month, I went twice.

00:31:30.336 --> 00:31:30.756
Yeah.

00:31:30.756 --> 00:31:43.596
Like it doesn't, it doesn't, it's not tying, like I remember in school, like elementary school, like you had a a three by five card and you had to write goals down and tape it to your desk and then it just stared at you.

00:31:43.625 --> 00:31:43.715
Yeah.

00:31:43.986 --> 00:31:45.155
For ever.

00:31:45.161 --> 00:31:49.655
Which, and I get that like again in education, I understand the value of that.

00:31:49.715 --> 00:31:51.336
I do that with my students.

00:31:51.336 --> 00:31:53.885
I don't often use the term goals with them either though.

00:31:54.576 --> 00:32:01.715
Because I understand the anxiety that that can provoke and typically the kids I'm working with are already struggling with a certain level of anxiety.

00:32:01.776 --> 00:32:02.046
Yeah.

00:32:02.645 --> 00:32:04.056
Or depression or both.

00:32:04.296 --> 00:32:11.796
Um, but you know, we talk about like where are we gonna focus, where's the, where are the priorities we use other words

00:32:11.855 --> 00:32:12.155
Yeah.

00:32:12.365 --> 00:32:14.556
That are still the same thing.

00:32:14.586 --> 00:32:18.605
They just help us reframe it in our heads to make it more accessible.

00:32:18.996 --> 00:32:19.236
Yeah.

00:32:20.016 --> 00:32:20.405
Um.

00:32:20.990 --> 00:32:27.740
And honestly, the ability to reframe things in a way that makes it more accessible has been

00:32:28.760 --> 00:32:29.510
game changers.

00:32:29.570 --> 00:32:34.490
My, like bread and butter when it comes to working with students, even with my own kids.

00:32:35.721 --> 00:32:41.090
So I, my mother-in-law is, she's a, she's an an immigrant.

00:32:41.090 --> 00:32:42.921
She grew, grew up in a third world country.

00:32:43.671 --> 00:32:48.111
She, uh, has a very different way of communicating.

00:32:48.215 --> 00:32:48.246
Okay.

00:32:48.875 --> 00:32:50.465
And running a household than I do.

00:32:50.465 --> 00:32:57.125
So my children are having to function in a very different way now than they're used to, which is fantastic for them.

00:32:57.425 --> 00:33:01.145
And I'm very happy that that is going to happen for them.

00:33:01.145 --> 00:33:03.306
They, it's also with a lot of growing pains.

00:33:04.086 --> 00:33:18.096
Um, but when I was speaking with them the other day about the experience of working with their grandma every day while I was at work, I told them, your grandma and grandpa.

00:33:18.786 --> 00:33:20.736
Have a way of speaking that's different.

00:33:20.796 --> 00:33:25.266
And I looked at my middle schooler and I said, she speaks in all caps.

00:33:25.625 --> 00:33:33.155
And my middle schooler looked at me like I had just said, the most brain rotty, brain rot ever in the world.

00:33:34.205 --> 00:33:37.536
And then was like, how dare you use my text language against me?

00:33:38.615 --> 00:33:39.221
I was like, child, I want,

00:33:39.246 --> 00:33:41.405
I could just, I could just picture her face for that too.

00:33:41.405 --> 00:33:42.516
It was, oh my God.

00:33:42.905 --> 00:33:43.605
And I was like, I.

00:33:43.895 --> 00:33:44.105
A genius.

00:33:44.826 --> 00:33:45.125
Yep.

00:33:45.546 --> 00:33:45.935
Yep.

00:33:45.935 --> 00:33:46.865
Because she got it.

00:33:47.076 --> 00:33:47.346
Yeah.

00:33:47.346 --> 00:33:47.945
She understood.

00:33:48.006 --> 00:33:52.865
And she needed the validation of being like, this is uncomfortable for me.

00:33:53.675 --> 00:33:56.915
And by just reframing it and saying, Hey, this is uncomfortable.

00:33:57.050 --> 00:33:57.340
Yeah.

00:33:57.455 --> 00:34:00.425
For you because it's different.

00:34:00.425 --> 00:34:00.486
Yeah.

00:34:00.756 --> 00:34:02.556
And here's kind of the context to look at it.

00:34:02.556 --> 00:34:03.965
She's not angry at you.

00:34:03.971 --> 00:34:04.260
Mm-hmm.

00:34:04.655 --> 00:34:06.125
She just speaks in all caps.

00:34:06.125 --> 00:34:07.175
She doesn't yell.

00:34:07.385 --> 00:34:07.715
Yeah.

00:34:08.166 --> 00:34:09.996
But it feels like she's yelling.

00:34:10.085 --> 00:34:10.295
Yes.

00:34:10.865 --> 00:34:14.766
Yes, and, and it helped her and my 8-year-old also.

00:34:14.826 --> 00:34:17.135
They both were like, oh,

00:34:17.315 --> 00:34:19.085
because it makes it make more sense.

00:34:19.115 --> 00:34:19.416
Yeah.

00:34:20.465 --> 00:34:21.425
We get that.

00:34:21.456 --> 00:34:26.826
Like my brother, I will now describe him as speaking in all cap.

00:34:26.856 --> 00:34:28.356
Yes, he does.

00:34:28.715 --> 00:34:29.795
Not as consistently.

00:34:30.456 --> 00:34:31.266
Yeah.

00:34:31.266 --> 00:34:31.405
No, but yes.

00:34:31.405 --> 00:34:34.391
But yes, he struggles sometimes with an inside.

00:34:34.731 --> 00:34:35.240
Voice.

00:34:36.170 --> 00:34:36.351
Yeah.

00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:36.981
Yeah.

00:34:38.420 --> 00:34:41.001
And we all, we all speak with all caps sometimes.

00:34:41.001 --> 00:34:41.690
Yes, it happens.

00:34:41.690 --> 00:34:41.960
Right?

00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:43.431
That's just human nature.

00:34:43.431 --> 00:34:44.960
It's why it's a thing on text.

00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:45.501
'cause it happens.

00:34:45.501 --> 00:34:45.891
Exactly.

00:34:46.371 --> 00:34:51.291
But even when she's calm, she sounds like she's mad.

00:34:53.365 --> 00:34:56.420
Uh, I could definitely see how that would throw the girls off.

00:34:56.451 --> 00:34:56.721
Yes.

00:34:56.721 --> 00:34:57.380
Oh my gosh.

00:34:58.101 --> 00:35:01.670
And just'cause it's so much different than how you communicate.

00:35:01.701 --> 00:35:01.971
Yes.

00:35:02.030 --> 00:35:02.181
Like.

00:35:02.871 --> 00:35:03.561
180.

00:35:03.621 --> 00:35:05.240
And even how their dad communicates.

00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:05.510
Yeah.

00:35:05.931 --> 00:35:09.081
Because, and he sometimes talks like that, but not as often as they do.

00:35:09.471 --> 00:35:14.721
I, I would imagine less since he hasn't, since they've been across the country.

00:35:14.721 --> 00:35:14.811
Mm-hmm.

00:35:15.050 --> 00:35:16.641
And he's not with that all the time.

00:35:16.641 --> 00:35:16.701
Yeah.

00:35:17.240 --> 00:35:23.391
Like is, do you feel like it's louder, like his all cap speaking is louder when he's been back to visit?

00:35:23.931 --> 00:35:26.451
No, his Minnesota accents just stronger.

00:35:26.570 --> 00:35:27.681
That's the only thing that happens.

00:35:28.581 --> 00:35:31.251
But that happens anytime he talks to his brother on the phone.

00:35:31.340 --> 00:35:31.911
Oh, that's funny.

00:35:32.195 --> 00:35:39.275
So he, but he, his Minnesota accent doesn't come back.

00:35:39.275 --> 00:35:44.376
When he talks to his parents, he just starts to talk like them.

00:35:44.585 --> 00:35:44.856
Yeah.

00:35:44.945 --> 00:35:46.326
Like a Caribbean accent.

00:35:49.956 --> 00:35:51.456
Just hilarious to me.

00:35:51.545 --> 00:35:52.206
I love that.

00:35:52.476 --> 00:35:53.106
Oh my gosh, it's great.

00:35:53.166 --> 00:35:59.891
It's my, it's my, my husband's family's from Guyana, like, don't drink the Kool-Aid.

00:36:01.266 --> 00:36:01.956
Jim Jones.

00:36:01.956 --> 00:36:02.496
Jim Jones.

00:36:02.496 --> 00:36:02.735
Yeah.

00:36:03.036 --> 00:36:03.786
Uhhuh Guyana.

00:36:04.025 --> 00:36:04.206
Yeah.

00:36:04.746 --> 00:36:07.835
Uh, because that's how the context that most Americans know.

00:36:08.045 --> 00:36:08.315
Yeah.

00:36:08.376 --> 00:36:25.445
So my, my family, they're West Indian, so there's a lot of like, uh, like India Indian influence and, but a lot of Caribbean influence, uh, like Trinidad and Tobago sort of vibe.

00:36:25.775 --> 00:36:26.135
Yeah.

00:36:26.141 --> 00:36:28.121
Um, so it's very different.

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.900
It's, but it's great.

00:36:29.900 --> 00:36:31.190
It's good for my kids.

00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:34.070
It's, it's good for, they learn a lot.

00:36:34.070 --> 00:36:35.990
They learn a lot from their older aunts.

00:36:36.141 --> 00:36:38.931
Well, they're older, their youngest aunts and uncles.

00:36:39.141 --> 00:36:39.380
Yeah.

00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:39.440
Um,

00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:44.905
which is, but it's too, and I learn a lot too.

00:36:44.905 --> 00:36:44.985
Yeah.

00:36:45.411 --> 00:36:55.731
And it's cool growing, being able to grow up in a multi-generational house and with other kids that you haven't spent every day of your life with.

00:36:55.731 --> 00:36:55.851
Mm-hmm.

00:36:56.931 --> 00:36:57.141
Yeah.

00:36:57.635 --> 00:36:57.846
Yeah.

00:36:58.356 --> 00:37:02.615
And they're old enough that they like it.

00:37:02.795 --> 00:37:03.096
Yeah.

00:37:03.275 --> 00:37:05.496
Versus not like the youngest one.

00:37:05.496 --> 00:37:08.916
And my older two kids get along super well.

00:37:09.005 --> 00:37:10.626
They're like best friends.

00:37:11.465 --> 00:37:15.666
Um, and so that's been really fun for all of them.

00:37:15.996 --> 00:37:16.326
Yeah.

00:37:16.476 --> 00:37:17.706
To kind of have each other.

00:37:17.706 --> 00:37:20.496
But the older kids like to spend time with the younger kids.

00:37:20.496 --> 00:37:20.826
They don't.

00:37:20.885 --> 00:37:21.545
It's not like, does

00:37:21.545 --> 00:37:22.476
that helps too?

00:37:22.865 --> 00:37:23.315
Yeah.

00:37:24.306 --> 00:37:25.206
It's not like they're mad.

00:37:26.255 --> 00:37:28.295
That they're in a house with a bunch of younger kids.

00:37:28.295 --> 00:37:30.876
They're actually like,'cause it keeps them entertained and they're

00:37:30.990 --> 00:37:31.536
That's that's fair.

00:37:31.536 --> 00:37:32.405
Free entertainment.

00:37:32.556 --> 00:37:32.856
Yeah.

00:37:32.945 --> 00:37:34.115
'cause your kids are funny.

00:37:34.295 --> 00:37:35.076
They are funny.

00:37:35.525 --> 00:37:37.596
They're so funny and so dry.

00:37:38.706 --> 00:37:40.356
Like jokes is very dry.

00:37:40.385 --> 00:37:40.715
Her humor.

00:37:40.715 --> 00:37:41.045
You're welcome.

00:37:41.405 --> 00:37:42.275
I appreciate that.

00:37:44.346 --> 00:37:48.905
I've worked hard to instill some of the dryness into Hello Kitty.

00:37:50.106 --> 00:37:51.876
Oh, you wanted to say hi to the people?

00:37:54.155 --> 00:37:55.356
I am not giving you more wet food.

00:37:55.356 --> 00:37:56.195
It is not breakfast.

00:37:57.485 --> 00:37:58.865
I don't care what you say to me.

00:38:01.115 --> 00:38:01.596
Alright.

00:38:02.016 --> 00:38:04.835
It's like, I'll just climb in your lap and stare into your soul instead.

00:38:05.675 --> 00:38:14.016
Um, what are, what are some tips that you would give somebody who is starting to bullet journal or was thinking about it?

00:38:14.226 --> 00:38:18.516
Um, start simple.

00:38:20.436 --> 00:38:24.335
And be willing to change things up as needed.

00:38:27.275 --> 00:38:38.110
Um, like don't, I would not recommend doing in a whole year worth of a bullet journal to start like I did.

00:38:38.521 --> 00:38:38.871
Right.

00:38:39.096 --> 00:38:40.505
That was a workup to that.

00:38:40.536 --> 00:38:42.005
You drove, you dove right in.

00:38:42.005 --> 00:38:43.266
You're like, I'm doing, I'm committing.

00:38:43.266 --> 00:38:44.826
I did three months to start.

00:38:45.126 --> 00:38:45.396
Yeah.

00:38:45.396 --> 00:38:45.485
And.

00:38:47.181 --> 00:38:48.530
And it was very simple.

00:38:48.530 --> 00:38:53.871
It was very basic and it didn't work very well, but I learned a lot.

00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.981
Yeah, and I, and I also learned what I liked and what I didn't like, and so I changed things.

00:38:58.550 --> 00:39:12.201
But, you know, do a chunk of time that feels manageable to you and include things that are important to you, but also like don't, don't feel like you have to go.

00:39:16.056 --> 00:39:17.496
From zero to a hundred.

00:39:17.795 --> 00:39:18.096
Yeah.

00:39:18.186 --> 00:39:18.545
Right.

00:39:18.755 --> 00:39:23.166
Like we were talking about doing like pulling tarot cards.

00:39:23.226 --> 00:39:23.465
Yeah.

00:39:23.885 --> 00:39:30.936
And how you're supposed to do one once a day, but that's not real life.

00:39:31.175 --> 00:39:31.326
Yeah.

00:39:31.356 --> 00:39:31.686
For me.

00:39:32.315 --> 00:39:32.766
For me.

00:39:33.335 --> 00:39:40.291
And so we weren't gonna put space for you to pull a card every day, day.

00:39:40.775 --> 00:39:42.635
Because it probably wasn't gonna happen.

00:39:43.056 --> 00:39:48.005
But at the same time, like if that's something you already are doing in your life, include it.

00:39:48.155 --> 00:39:48.516
Yeah.

00:39:48.695 --> 00:39:56.016
But like for me right now, doing one every week is a challenge.

00:39:56.045 --> 00:39:56.286
Yeah.

00:39:56.585 --> 00:40:02.436
So I, that's another way that I establish goals is I put a tracker.

00:40:03.456 --> 00:40:03.465
Yeah.

00:40:03.726 --> 00:40:03.846
Yeah.

00:40:03.846 --> 00:40:04.806
In a certain spot.

00:40:04.806 --> 00:40:07.416
And say, my goal is to, you know, like.

00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:09.860
Do a tarot poll every week.

00:40:09.860 --> 00:40:11.840
What it looks like, what it's gonna be, I don't know.

00:40:12.110 --> 00:40:13.161
It's pretty open-ended.

00:40:13.161 --> 00:40:13.221
Yeah.

00:40:13.221 --> 00:40:13.940
But here it is.

00:40:14.570 --> 00:40:20.630
Like I have daily trackers in there, but I don't have them labeled as anything because I'm like, well, I don't really know what I wanna focus on.

00:40:20.780 --> 00:40:21.081
Yeah.

00:40:21.141 --> 00:40:23.300
Probably should figure that out since it starts tomorrow.

00:40:23.300 --> 00:40:29.840
But I mean, you've got, you've still got, let's see, it's you, you've got some hours left, you've got like 10 hours, nine hours.

00:40:30.110 --> 00:40:35.121
And then again, if you don't use every inch of every page, that's okay.

00:40:35.300 --> 00:40:36.561
And if you don't use.

00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:44.811
Every box that you draw, if you don't use every sticker, if you don't answer every question, it's fine.

00:40:45.650 --> 00:40:47.690
Um, leave yourself open space.

00:40:47.690 --> 00:40:58.161
If you like to draw or you like to write or you like to journal, like it's okay to leave blank pages in between and for you to fill it in even after the fact.

00:40:58.371 --> 00:40:58.670
Yeah,

00:40:59.811 --> 00:41:02.420
and if you miss a day of tracking, go back and fill it in.

00:41:02.541 --> 00:41:02.811
Who cares?

00:41:03.456 --> 00:41:04.565
Guess if you want.

00:41:04.985 --> 00:41:07.896
Yeah, I do that all the time, especially for my mood trackers.

00:41:07.896 --> 00:41:09.815
'Cause I'm terrible about doing them every day.

00:41:10.925 --> 00:41:11.255
Yeah.

00:41:11.826 --> 00:41:13.626
And sometimes I leave blank spaces

00:41:13.626 --> 00:41:18.695
and sometimes I, I try a mood tracker in like one of my planners a couple years ago and I'm like, I was happy.

00:41:18.726 --> 00:41:20.076
Oh, every single day this week.

00:41:20.076 --> 00:41:21.606
I'm like, you're such a goddamn liar.

00:41:21.606 --> 00:41:22.326
You were not.

00:41:22.505 --> 00:41:22.686
Yeah.

00:41:23.135 --> 00:41:24.096
What are you talking about?

00:41:24.096 --> 00:41:26.585
You were an anxious pile of clothing.

00:41:27.695 --> 00:41:29.916
And being honest with yourself is helpful.

00:41:29.945 --> 00:41:30.275
Right.

00:41:30.275 --> 00:41:32.885
I mean, but it's only as helpful as you make it.

00:41:33.065 --> 00:41:33.335
Yeah.

00:41:33.516 --> 00:41:33.786
Right.

00:41:33.786 --> 00:41:39.786
So if you don't want to track your mood because that's gonna be stressful for you or make you feel bad, don't do it.

00:41:39.846 --> 00:41:40.085
Yeah.

00:41:40.536 --> 00:41:49.056
I mean, I have never tracked my exercise habits right in my journal because I already am really hard on myself mm-hmm.

00:41:49.295 --> 00:41:52.326
About whether or not I'm working out or doing this or doing that.

00:41:53.076 --> 00:41:55.806
Um, this is the first time I've ever put.

00:41:56.181 --> 00:42:00.320
Any kind of tracking for my workouts and I did it super conservatively.

00:42:00.380 --> 00:42:00.681
Yeah.

00:42:00.981 --> 00:42:06.860
Like I tracked how many times per week I went Yeah.

00:42:07.371 --> 00:42:10.460
To the gym is what I'm gonna do this, and we'll just see what happens.

00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:11.240
Yeah.

00:42:11.391 --> 00:42:13.460
Because right now I go zero dates.

00:42:13.701 --> 00:42:13.851
Yeah.

00:42:14.335 --> 00:42:19.041
And that's probably not gonna change in the next few weeks.

00:42:19.070 --> 00:42:19.460
Nope.

00:42:20.646 --> 00:42:21.275
Probably not.

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:26.195
Hopefully it changes in the next few months, but that's a big focus for me this year.

00:42:26.465 --> 00:42:29.465
Yeah, with all the changes I've gone through is to get back to CrossFit.

00:42:29.585 --> 00:42:30.576
'cause I love CrossFit.

00:42:30.996 --> 00:42:35.405
I'm not a hardcore CrossFitter, but I found joy in it, oddly enough.

00:42:35.496 --> 00:42:37.896
I'm glad that you have found joy in it.

00:42:37.896 --> 00:42:40.956
I remember when you first started talking about it, I was like, you doing what now?

00:42:41.255 --> 00:42:41.465
Yeah.

00:42:41.856 --> 00:42:42.246
Okay.

00:42:42.246 --> 00:42:46.715
Everyone thinks I'm crazy and I'm like, no, but it like, they're like, isn't that really hard?

00:42:46.715 --> 00:42:48.090
I'm like, I mean, yeah, but like.

00:42:48.695 --> 00:42:52.686
It's not like I'm competing with the guy who weight lifts 250 pounds.

00:42:52.686 --> 00:42:52.835
Right.

00:42:53.016 --> 00:42:55.326
You're just, you're doing it with you for you.

00:42:55.351 --> 00:42:55.641
Yeah.

00:42:55.985 --> 00:42:56.376
Yeah.

00:42:56.885 --> 00:42:57.485
And you have me

00:42:57.485 --> 00:43:00.576
over here going, I don't like sweating anymore.

00:43:03.306 --> 00:43:03.335
Oh.

00:43:03.335 --> 00:43:06.606
I don't know when that change happened, but now I'm like, I would rather not,

00:43:06.606 --> 00:43:08.255
and I'm trying to convince my.

00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:15.170
17-year-old sister-in-law to come with me because I'm like, if she comes with me then I'll actually go.

00:43:15.411 --> 00:43:16.670
'cause she'll be excited about it.

00:43:16.701 --> 00:43:17.780
'cause she likes to work out.

00:43:17.811 --> 00:43:17.931
Yeah.

00:43:17.990 --> 00:43:19.610
Accountability partners.

00:43:20.271 --> 00:43:22.340
Even just dragging them along for the ride can,

00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:23.420
but it won't feel naggy.

00:43:23.420 --> 00:43:24.471
'cause she'll be like, right.

00:43:24.471 --> 00:43:25.760
Can we go to CrossFit today?

00:43:25.791 --> 00:43:26.775
Yeah, she'll be, she'll be excited.

00:43:27.445 --> 00:43:28.255
Okay, fine.

00:43:28.275 --> 00:43:29.096
Me fine.

00:43:29.155 --> 00:43:30.175
We can go go.

00:43:30.485 --> 00:43:31.016
It's fine.

00:43:31.820 --> 00:43:35.871
Um, but that's a conversation I had yet to have with her mom, so we'll see.

00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:36.320
Yeah.

00:43:36.951 --> 00:43:37.431
We'll see.

00:43:37.490 --> 00:43:37.851
We'll see.

00:43:38.061 --> 00:43:44.061
Would, would it be okay if we took some pictures or if you shared some pictures with me of some of your bullet journal?

00:43:44.061 --> 00:43:45.561
Maybe not this year if you don't want to, but like

00:43:45.681 --> 00:43:47.150
No, we can share pictures of this one.

00:43:47.155 --> 00:43:47.286
Cool.

00:43:47.291 --> 00:43:48.831
I'm actually really proud of this bullet journal.

00:43:48.831 --> 00:43:50.001
It's so pretty.

00:43:50.001 --> 00:43:52.070
It's really, it looks really good.

00:43:52.101 --> 00:43:53.210
It is so cool.

00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:54.831
Especially my September one.

00:43:54.831 --> 00:43:55.940
I'm like, eh.

00:43:55.971 --> 00:43:56.121
Okay.

00:43:56.150 --> 00:43:59.630
So we will definitely share the September one, uh, if you're cool with that.

00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:00.110
Yeah.

00:44:00.170 --> 00:44:00.951
So people can see.

00:44:00.951 --> 00:44:01.971
I think that'd be really fun.

00:44:01.971 --> 00:44:02.030
Yeah.

00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.210
And if, I don't know, is there a way for people to message you and ask questions?

00:44:05.240 --> 00:44:05.300
Yeah.

00:44:05.945 --> 00:44:10.746
Yeah, people can definitely message and you can message on the Instagram, you can message on Facebook

00:44:10.925 --> 00:44:12.666
or if anybody wants a custom bullet drink.

00:44:13.326 --> 00:44:17.016
Yeah, if you want a custom bullet journal, this is, you heard it here first people.

00:44:17.016 --> 00:44:19.416
This is a, sorry.

00:44:19.416 --> 00:44:22.085
That's my inside voice exclusive announcement.

00:44:22.956 --> 00:44:30.365
If you want a bullet journal personalized for you, that will be beautiful and functional.

00:44:30.371 --> 00:44:30.550
Hand drawn.

00:44:30.556 --> 00:44:31.865
Hand drawn, it's great.

00:44:32.106 --> 00:44:34.865
Uh, Ashley is your human, uh, and I will hook you up.

00:44:35.990 --> 00:44:39.650
It'll be great for those of you who didn't hear a lot of cats in this episode.

00:44:39.710 --> 00:44:46.521
Uh, you may have heard Aylah uh, meowing at me, but she has been in and out Aylah Who doesn't like most people?

00:44:46.731 --> 00:44:47.601
Loves Ashley.

00:44:47.931 --> 00:44:48.141
Yeah.

00:44:48.561 --> 00:44:50.331
Uh, she has been all up in her business.

00:44:50.331 --> 00:44:50.840
That's new.

00:44:51.170 --> 00:44:53.090
Yeah, it's delightful.

00:44:53.271 --> 00:44:53.481
Yeah.

00:44:53.481 --> 00:44:54.021
I like it.

00:44:54.201 --> 00:44:55.251
Yeah, it's nice.

00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.880
I think it's because I have cats now, so I probably smell like cats.

00:44:58.911 --> 00:45:01.130
Yeah, that might be, that might.

00:45:02.001 --> 00:45:02.331
Alright.

00:45:02.331 --> 00:45:04.280
Well thank you for chatting, Ashley.

00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:05.840
Yeah, thanks for having me.

00:45:09.909 --> 00:45:13.869
So with that, the cats and I are gonna go, uh, during editing.

00:45:13.869 --> 00:45:15.730
I've had an ala on my lap.

00:45:15.730 --> 00:45:21.130
I've had a Lucy next to me and Nala's doing her, you know, pretend like she doesn't want a snuggle thing.

00:45:21.699 --> 00:45:22.210
Um.

00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:24.309
I hope you enjoyed this episode.

00:45:24.309 --> 00:45:31.599
If you have any questions about bullet journaling, um, you can send them on Instagram or Facebook.

00:45:31.630 --> 00:45:35.679
I'm at, sorry, that's my inside voice on Instagram and Facebook.

00:45:36.070 --> 00:45:42.820
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00:45:42.909 --> 00:45:47.739
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00:45:48.940 --> 00:45:51.940
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00:45:52.389 --> 00:45:59.440
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00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:00.159
Oh my gosh.

00:46:00.190 --> 00:46:01.179
I love your cats.

00:46:01.210 --> 00:46:02.170
That would be amazing.

00:46:02.289 --> 00:46:04.929
I'll tell the cats they won't care, but I will.

00:46:05.349 --> 00:46:07.389
Um, but do that for any podcast you listen to.

00:46:07.389 --> 00:46:08.500
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00:46:08.980 --> 00:46:10.989
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00:46:10.989 --> 00:46:17.050
So hopefully you guys are having a lovely listening adventure and we'll talk to y'all soon.

00:46:17.184 --> 00:46:17.405
Bye.