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Join host Kat Garcia as she sits down with her platonic life partner, Ellie Jones, for a candid and lighthearted conversation. In this episode, Kat and Ellie ramble, chitchat, and dive into the quirks of their friendship, sharing stories, laughter, and honest reflections. Whether they're discussing life’s little moments or exploring deeper topics, their chemistry and humor shine through. Tune in for an episode that feels like catching up with old friends—full of warmth, wit, and genuine connection. 

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Greetings and salutations.

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Welcome to, sorry.

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That's my inside voice.

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I'm your host, cat Garcia, and in this episode I get to sit down and talk with my platonic life partner, Ellie Jones.

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We kind of ramble, we kind of chitchat.

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We talk about ling, we talk about wine, we talk about firefighting.

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We talk about lighting shit on fire.

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It's a very exciting episode.

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Enjoy.

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Are you all

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clipped?

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I am clipped.

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Yay.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Testing.

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Testing.

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Yes.

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It's picking up your voice.

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Awesome.

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Do you wanna introduce yourself?

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What

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do I say?

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What would you like to say?

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Who are you?

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Oh,

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my name is Ellie Jones and I'm your Platonic

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life partner.

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Yeah, you, you are my platonic life partner.

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And I'm yours, correct?

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Um,

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we've been best friends for gosh long time that I'm not old enough, but I have friends that long.

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How often?

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I'm shy about my age.

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I'm just saying at a certain point, don't.

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We don't need to.

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It's just been long enough.

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It's, it's been long enough that it feels like we were, we've been together longer than we were apart.

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Hmm.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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Um, we've outlast our friendship has outlasted all of our marriages.

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Uh, that's

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so

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morbid.

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I mean, it's the longest relationship I've ever had.

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I know.

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It's still, um,

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you know.

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Yeah.

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Um.

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We have a good time.

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Yes, we do.

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We play a lot of games.

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Play a lot of games.

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Lots of card games.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're, uh, we're

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game humans.

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Yeah.

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And board games.

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Love of'em.

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What games?

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Some of'em, you know.

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Yeah.

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We, uh, we love settlers.

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Yeah.

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I'm not gonna play Monopoly with anyone.

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No, that's, I don't like it.

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I, I don't really play Monopoly or

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Life.

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I played that.

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I'm over it

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all.

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All I like are like the little mini figures, like people get excited about the Lego Mini figs and I like those.

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But like the Star Wars monopoly pieces, those are cool.

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No.

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Not for me.

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I mean, I'm not gonna play

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it.

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I have it, but you can have plate it and I'm happy for you, but I don't want it.

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My dog would eat them.

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Your dog eats a lot of things he's not supposed to.

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Fuck.

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I know.

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Um, oh, I said the F word.

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You're, you're allowed to swear.

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That's adorable.

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I was like, oh, you've, I'm gonna get in trouble.

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You've listened to the podcast.

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I know.

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I don't.

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Was your reaction, you know,

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I don't know.

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Love.

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I'll be like, oh.

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I mean, there is a button when I upload episodes that's like, is this explicit?

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Always.

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Yes.

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That's

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good.

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Always.

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Yes.

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That's good to know.

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Uh, I'm re flat ironing my hair because it was so freaking muggy today.

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It undid my original flat iron.

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So, which is so

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rude.

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This is the second time you've done that.

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Yeah, today.

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I love that.

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And, and it didn't dry because it was so muggy out.

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I had to blow dry my hair too.

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It's a good thing you cut off some of your hair so it's shorter.

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I actually said that today too.

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I was like, thank God I cut some inches off.

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Feels

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fresh.

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It's like you knew.

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Yeah.

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It's like you um, should we talk about how we became friends?

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Should we talk?

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What do you wanna talk about?

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We have so many options.

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I know.

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Where do you wanna start?

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Um, well let's start with I.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I didn't, I didn't, I didn't do a lot of prep for this, which assumes I do prep for the other episodes.

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I, I don't usually that's true, but, but like I have a list in my book of topics for us to talk about.

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But since this is your first episode, and since you are my Platonic life partner, you'll be on mower.

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I figured we could just

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wing it.

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Wing it.

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I'm a winger.

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I'm a winger.

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I don't know if that's appropriate to say.

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I don't think that.

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I don't think I can say that.

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Well, you did.

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Well, I did.

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Sorry about that.

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Anyone?

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Um.

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I feel like I need to preface it, but I've been drinking a little bit today.

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That's okay.

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I need it to,

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no, that's not appropriate to say either.

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Ah, it, it's, it's appropriate to say you're fine.

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It's okay.

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I know.

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I don't, we listen and we don't judge.

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That's true.

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I'm a Virgo.

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I judge a lot of things.

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She does judge things.

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Um, but I'm not judging your beverage.

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No.

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I myself have really boring wa It's not even salty water today.

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It's just water, so.

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Mm.

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That happens.

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Let's see.

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I, we could talk about transitions.

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You could talk about, um, I move at

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all my transitions, I guess.

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I don't know.

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I guess, yeah,

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I'm just, I'm just excited.

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Are we gonna talk about that

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a little bit?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Okay.

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Um, I'm excited that it's not happening in the dead of winter.

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Yeah, me too.

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Ellie has a.

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Well-documented history of choosing to move in the coldest part of the year.

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This time you're moving in fall.

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Yeah, which is like the best time of year because all the Polly things aren't alive usually.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it's not too hot, it's not too cold, it's just.

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I agree.

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Except today when it was mug as hell and I was cursing it because we live in the Pacific Northwest.

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I was like, we like all our seasons and they're not allowed to overlap like this.

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It's rude.

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It is.

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Get outta here.

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It's

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get on outta here.

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It's so muggy.

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It, the air's just like, I don't like it.

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You're not wrong.

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I don't like it.

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Um, let's see.

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You got a dog?

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Oh yeah, I do.

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I, let's talk about

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him.

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Leonis.

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I got a dog and I thought I was getting a golden dole, and technically he is a golden doodle.

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But he's not, he's a bad one, not a bad dog, but like he doesn't even look like a golden doodle in any way.

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Would you be okay with us sharing a

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picture of your not doodle doodle?

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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I got funny videos.

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I have documented every second of that dog's life because he is like my second child.

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Um, he's, he's really

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the closest I'm ever gonna be to a dog of my own.

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Yeah.

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'cause I got to go with you

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to, but I want, but I want everyone to know that a baby.

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Is easier than a dog because

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that was, that was what she was deciding for.

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And I don't mean

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that lightly because we have structures in place for babies and it's still so incredibly hard to have a baby.

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So I'm not just saying like, go instead of a puppy.

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Like just don't on both.

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If you have a choice because life isn't better without him, just go adopt like an old man dog.

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We're an oldie cat life.

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Oh man.

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Yeah.

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Old man dog all the way.

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Yeah, that's what I'm doing from now.

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Um, it's definitely a switch from your last dog.

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Jesus.

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God was an old

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man.

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Yep.

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Um, and he, we got him when he, his puppy too.

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But Leo is the most energetic dog I've ever had.

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Um, and he needs just like.

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All the training all the time.

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And when I first got him, I was working full time ma, majority of the time outta the house.

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And just by having a remote ish job prior to that.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I am.

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I don't feel like I'm behind on training, but he just has a lot of energy and a lot of energy to manage.

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So

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your vet said he was a DHD?

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Yeah.

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I mean, they gave me ca gabapentin for him when he was a puppy.

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'cause they're like, oh, you got a good one.

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And I

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said, what does that mean?

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What are you talking to me like that he loves everybody.

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Oh, he does what?

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His body, he doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body.

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Mm-hmm.

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He just, he likes to kiss you, loves you.

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He loves you with his whole body and, and let's talk about his full name.

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Oh his name, his full name that we decided is Leonis Cedar.

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Long Paw Jones and it was just originally Leonis Cedar Jones.

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But after we got him, we shortly realized that when he likes his belly rubbed, he will put his paw straight up.

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And if your face is in the way, he's gonna, he does not punch you.

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Yeah.

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He will punch you straight with that paw.

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When he's long pa, I gotta,'cause you are in the way.

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Yep.

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I've gotten a couple fat lifts.

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Oh yeah.

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I've had, yeah, I think

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he popped my contact out once my chin severely bruised.

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Like to the point that it like swelled.

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I've had a big bruise down my leg from his nails'cause he jumped on me'cause it was scary.

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Oh my, my super fun leash burn from the beach.

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Oh, unlimited leash burns.

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Which it was, I don't know.

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That was what, like six months ago.

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And it's still there?

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Yeah.

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Um, I've had one, I have one on my finger right now.

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From him pulling on the lights.

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He's just so big and I have lost like a hundred pounds and he makes me fly.

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He will literally make me take off in the air if I don't have my, like, feet set.

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And it's stunning.

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I've never been moved so fast before in my entire life.

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We, we decided last week, last week to do like a test run of recording because lesson.

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Ellie had never, she had some anxiety about recording, which makes sense.

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I mean, I just pretend I'm talking to the voices in my head when I do it by myself.

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Mm-hmm.

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But other people have concerns and so I clipped her into the microphone.

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And then we just talked for a while.

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Well, in between the talking and the clipping and the young clipping, Leo saw a dog and a person.

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Who he's probably seen many times in his

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life, lots of times, like

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every

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day

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of

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his puppy

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life.

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And Ellie was sitting in a bench in like a camp bench.

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Very cute, very comfy.

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Not sturdy.

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I love them.

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And I was sitting in my rocking camp chair.

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You could play an excerpt of that.

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I should, I will.

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Insert an ext'cause we have it recorded.

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We do.

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It'll be great.

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I I will add it to the end of this episode.

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So you walk in here because we were in the middle of talking about like school or something.

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Yeah.

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Um, and, and then all of a sudden.

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There goes Leo Ellie's struggling.

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Oh.

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And she's holding a cup of wine.

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I'm holding a glass of wine.

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Okay.

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And then he goes and Ellie's trying to like grab his leash and like hold onto it, but he's going just get a better, and I'm trying to get out of the chair to no.

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All of a sudden Ellie just goes flipped over All the way over.

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Like Yeah.

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All the way, all the way over.

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She ended up with about an inch of wine in her cup.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, I'm

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shocked by that.

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I, I had wine

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in my eyeball.

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You did?

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It was running down my back.

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Mm-hmm.

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It was

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everywhere

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I had, I got, finally got outta the chair.

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I was like, shoot, I have a glass shoot.

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Why did I say, shoot, this is my podcast.

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I was like, should I have this glass wine glass?

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Gotta figure out what to do so I don't step on it and you know, cut myself.

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cause that would happen to us.

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Um, so I finally get Leo hand over hand and he comes back and he's like, I love everybody.

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He's like, mom, why

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are you laying it on the ground?

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Whatcha you doing?

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I love, mom.

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Do you need

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help?

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Mom, I

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can help you.

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I mean like you in kiss.

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Give hugs because I love you.

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And then he spent

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the next hour and a half staring at us.

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Through the window.

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Yeah.

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He had to go inside.

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I was done.

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There's time limits.

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Yeah.

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Moms need breaks.

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Moms need breaks.

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Uh, so it was very difficult.

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Ellie's life advice is if you are trying to decide between having a baby and getting a dog, don't do either one.

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Yeah.

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Don't, don't bother.

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Don't.

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They're enjoyable, but there's not enough.

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Not enough energy for all of it.

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It's a lot.

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It's a lot.

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Um, but otherwise he's enjoyable.

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But he takes up a lot of my time and a lot of my energy.

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I took him today to run errands, which included going about an hour out of town one way.

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And we've done that trip more than a couple of times, and he just was like.

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So stressed.

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And I was like, dude, you have literally gone in the car with me every day of your life.

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Like every day what?

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He's a good car dog.

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And he was just like, I don't know how to sit down.

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And I was like, why don't you sit down or lay down?

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And he was so stressed.

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I don't know why.

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So I had to drop him off on the way home.

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Um, and then I went to Tricia's for a little bit and chatted with her.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then.

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I decided to come home and have a drink.

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I love that for you.

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And Tricia just recorded an episode with me like a week and a half ago,

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and it's really good.

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It's actually about being sober and I was like, that's on me.

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Not right now.

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I did do a large period of time where I was sober and that was a really good idea.

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It was a great reset for me.

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And, um, I don't know, I feel like I had some pretty good self.

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Awareness grow from that, but it wouldn't have come unless I had gone through that sober period.

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So I'm grateful for it.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Even though it was

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hard.

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Yeah.

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What was the hardest thing about it for you?

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I like the social aspect of drinking.

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Like I really like sitting down, playing a game or two and having a glass of wine while we do it, or a beverage of choice or something.

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I don't know.

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It just makes, I don't know.

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I just, that's what I like to do.

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It feels good to me.

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I enjoy it.

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Taste good.

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You know, I don't drink bad beverages.

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Sometimes I'll drink a cider, and I really like supporting local wineries and cider houses because all of our cider houses are gonna go bankrupt in Oregon if we don't support our local people more.

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Mm-hmm.

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So I've been.

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Purposely buying local things.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Like, I'm just like, you lamb survive.

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I want you to keep Asian cider and, and I can't be the only drinker here, so God, I hope other people are doing this too.

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Um,

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I feel like that is such an excellent summation of how I discovered the wineries that I like.

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Yeah, you were just like, we're going.

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I'm like, alright.

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Yeah.

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And like we used to go to a lot of wineries and hang out and.

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Do like a wine tasting.

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A wine flight, and eat some snacks because everyone has different snacks or they don't, and then we'll never go there again.

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That's true.

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If you don't have snacks, because we don't have snacks, we're not coming back.

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That's rude.

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We're snack people, and if you don't have snacks, you better let us bring our own snacks and be grateful for it.

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And if you're snooty and you won't let me bring snacks, I'm not fucking going.

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I'm telling all my friends, no snacks.

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Don't go there.

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It's true.

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She will.

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I'm so, I'm so offended.

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You should.

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I know, I'm not gonna say they're mad out loud, but I'm mad at them still.

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Yeah, it was.

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They wouldn't even, lemme bring pre-made package sealed

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food

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in

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and we were drinking and it was someone's birthday.

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That's bullshit.

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It was bullshit ing.

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Um, which is why I did call, so this weekend is my birthday weekend.

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We're recording the Friday of my birthday weekend and I decided that I wanted to double check and make sure that if I bake the cupcakes that I want for my birthday, that we can take them with us.

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To the winery and eat them.

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Bingo for my birthday.

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And I called Van Douser, who is not on our wine list right now, but we might add them.

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'cause timing.

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Oh, I like them.

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Um, Trish and I have talked about them.

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They're great.

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We talked about the rose.

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We'll get to the rose, but they said that since they don't normally let outside food in, but if it's for like a special occasion Hmm.

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They would, I didn't know that.

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And I'm like, yes.

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Hmm.

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Cupcakes.

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That's nice and crackers, but we'll bring the good crackers.

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Oh, I found all the Malibu in the cup.

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Oh, did you?

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I gotta stir it up a little bit.

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Um, one of the things I don't, that's up a couple times.

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I don't drink

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hard alcohol.

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I You really don't

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anymore.

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I just was like, fucking don't you have that?

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Because we went.

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Somewhere we went to for away, for Ashley's, we did birthday weekend.

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That's

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correct.

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And you decided that you would get me alcohol in case I wanted my quick beverage?

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That's correct.

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And I had mixed drinks for all, all the alcohol I brought you did

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you did, you brought, you brought the, you brought the mixed drinks.

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I did.

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So.

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And everybody drank them.

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I was pretty impressed.

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Yeah, we are definitely not in our twenties though.

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'cause we would've needed that per day.

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Oh yeah, a hundred percent.

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Um, and we, I came home with a lot of leftover alcohol and I was like, eh, this is telling our age.

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Oh God.

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Yeah.

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I laughed.

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I was like, I'm okay with it though, because I didn't have a terrible time.

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No.

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Was great.

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Not even once.

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So no hang.

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I'm really okay with it.

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Yeah.

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And I slept so good.

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I slept.

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I slept a lot

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and I didn't wake you up with my snoring.

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I wouldn't have known I was sleeping,

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which is great with earbuds on.

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But, um, Trisha and I were talking about this, how you have converted me.

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I did

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to drinking Rose.

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So since we're talking about alcohol, let's talk about that.

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So it's delicious.

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Why did you decide that was something that I needed to drink?

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Well, I'm just saying if we're gonna share a bottle of wine,'cause they won't just give me a bottle of wine by myself, which I think is rude.

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You're not wrong.

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It's cheaper to buy by the bottle and yeah, but they always make me order more than one glass or they just stare at me weird.

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So I was like, all right, fine.

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Bring me two glasses.

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Here you go Catherine.

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And you can get whatever you want, but pretend.

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And then you started drinking it'cause it was in front of you and now you like it because I win.

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Mm-hmm.

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I win at everything forever.

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Just not all the time.

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I think there was something

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that came up for you that said that

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Oh yeah.

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One of my Virgo things.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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No, I was

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like,

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yep, that's right

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Uhhuh, I should get that.

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I should get that tattooed somewhere on my body.

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We all already know it.

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Nobody needs it tattooed.

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I know it's permanent in our brains.

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Um, I.

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I jumped into the, what was your first alcohol?

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Do you remember what your first alcohol was?

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Oh, yes I do, because mine was Long Island Iced Teas.

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This is God, two of them.

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That was my first alcohol.

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Mm mm-hmm.

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Um, that was before my grandma got me drunk.

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It's really unfortunate, but mine was homemade wine.

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And I tell you, I never thought in my life I would be a wine drinker after that.

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I didn't drink wine for.

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Far too many years after that experience and then it was a chore.

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I mean, my sister really went and tried every kind of wine with me and was so patient for like four years I remember.

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And I was like, I don't like that.

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When we

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met.

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Well, we were drinking more hard alcohol when we met.

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Um,

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it's'cause Danny made martinis first.

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Danny made

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martinis and we worked in residential treatment.

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It's so good.

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And you gotta have unhealthy coping skills in your twenties.

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Yeah.

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Um, but we bonded and it was great.

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But when I met you, you were drinking.

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Your wine of choice was whole cluster.

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Oh, it's so good from Willamette

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Valley Vineyards.

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It's delicious.

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We honestly, we should get a bottle.

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I

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agree.

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And try it and see if you still like it.

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'cause I don't think I've had one in ages and the last time was probably with you.

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Oh, that's, that's probably fair.

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I mean, we were think we were drinking like 2013 vintage then.

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Yeah,

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maybe.

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Maybe.

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No, it was definitely earlier than that.

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2009.

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No, Jesus.

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Where's my brain?

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I don't know.

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2010.

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11.

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Probably.

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Yeah, I bet there was a lot.

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I have a lot of photos.

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I could go back.

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Yeah.

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We, we have well documented wine picture.

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We do.

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I tend to take all the pictures

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with you and I.

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Yes.

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We even have

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our own album

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now.

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We do.

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Um, I like to take pictures of wine labels.

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Mm-hmm.

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That I think are

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pretty.

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Mm-hmm.

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Do I ever go back and buy the wine?

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Not usually.

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No, but it's good to know.

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I liked it.

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Ooh, I wanna make flower art.

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We should do that on a girl's night.

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Look how pretty that is.

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We gonna do flower art?

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Ooh, that looks fun.

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We could put it in our

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windows.

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Ellie is like the queen of multitasking because we're talking.

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It's'cause my brain won't.

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It's true.

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Her brain, her brain needs to do multiple things and she's like, um, ticky talking.

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I love the tiktoks.

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She does.

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She loves tiktoks.

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I really do.

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I don't need anything else.

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She made me read, she made me actually go into the app and look at the tiktoks that she sent me directly in the app instead of sending them to me by text message, because that just makes more sense.

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I'm not downloading shit for you.

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It's taking up all my space in my phone.

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And you can just get the app.

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It's free.

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It is free.

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But then I get sucked into the, there's no wormhole.

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That's your problem.

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It's so you set a timer like I do.

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I have to set timers.

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Or else I lose my day.

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My problem is usually when I have time to watch the talkie ticks, I go, I'm knitting.

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Mm-hmm.

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And one,

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I have an automatic clicker, cannot for my thumb.

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That way if I can't touch my phone,

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most, most people use that for reading books, works for your phone, and then works for TikTok.

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Never even thought of that.

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It's the same

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thing.

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That's why I was like, I got one of those.

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I love that.

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I don't even use my Kindle anymore.

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I use my phone and now I got a little clicker thingy and it works for the tiktoks and I'm like, ah.

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It's my favorite.

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I need to find ways to automate more things.

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When I knit, um, Ooh, the sweater looks like a sweater now.

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I love it.

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It looks like a sweater.

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It's gonna be great.

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Possibly.

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Um, oh, I don't think, uh, so I decided this year to make myself a sweater.

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It's beautiful.

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And I decided I wanted a yellow sweater.

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It's really golden though.

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A Yeah.

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Like a Goldie mustard.

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I was like, it's not yellow color.

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Don't say

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that.

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'cause it's

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really not.

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Yeah, it's got like some different yellow, it's like golden.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yellowy.

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It's not orange.

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Mm-hmm.

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But it's not like mustard

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and it's not like tweedy bird yellow.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no.

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But it's really pretty like golden buttercup and it's very like golden buttercup

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maybe.

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Yeah.

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Butter cup's

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too yellow.

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Yeah.

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We'll, we'll figure it out.

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I don't know.

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There's too many colors we'll put out to the universe.

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Maybe someone will come up with a good name.

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She got it off.

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You got from yarn, uh, yarn pdx.com.

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Go check it out.

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They're awesome.

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You can design your own yarn, which is what I did because I couldn't find one that I liked.

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Um, and so I ordered yarn.

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By the way, yarn, um, absorbs a lot of water and it ends up in a creek, as we have discussed.

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Yeah.

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I

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what I do?

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Mm.

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That was, that was an adventure.

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But the sweater is looking like a sweater, like I put it on yesterday.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because it now has shoulders and arm holes.

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I love that.

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And a head hole, but I gotta work on that.

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Uh, needs more room.

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Um, but we gotta figure out what I'm making for you next.

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You said you want a hat?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You want the, the,

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with the ponytail hole.

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The ponytail hole hat?

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Mm-hmm.

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You got color preferences?

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Um, not yellow.

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Well, that's all my yarn.

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I might have to order more.

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That's what I mean.

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It's like I don't want it to be matching your sweater.

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That's fair.

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Um, we match

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most other days greens.

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Okay.

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So it can be a forest ferry,

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a a forest ferry because I'm a forest ferry.

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Um, Ellie is a little witchy.

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Yeah.

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A little.

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Ah.

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What those, the fucking wis were burned on my

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birthday.

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They

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were burned on my birthday

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in 1692.

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They were, I am offended.

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I'm offended.

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There were not many witches actually burned at Salem

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enough.

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Mm-hmm.

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No.

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They were burned on my birthday and now I don't know what's gonna happen, but I feel offended by it.

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Do we need to burn something else on your birthday this year?

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I don't know.

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I'm gonna go burn them in and burn the woman.

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I shouldn't say that loud.

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I'm not really, it's not safe.

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Don't do that.

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That's the alcohol talking.

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I'm not letting anyone on fire.

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That's not

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safe.

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Oh yeah.

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No, don't talk.

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We will.

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We will not light people on fire.

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Disclaimer, it's not safe.

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Please don't do this at home.

00:22:18.473 --> 00:22:18.594
I was

00:22:18.594 --> 00:22:20.304
like, don't, don't do that.

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That's a rock.

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I was just being spicy.

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You, I know being spicy.

00:22:24.913 --> 00:22:25.044
It happens.

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It comes out sometimes.

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I'm like, that's not real.

00:22:27.489 --> 00:22:31.163
I'm not doing, I just talk to smack because I'm good at the sch smack.

00:22:31.388 --> 00:22:32.919
You, you are good at the sch smack.

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You've, you're also probably the person I know who has had the most, um, varied career of anyone I've ever talked to.

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I agree.

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I have.

00:22:45.483 --> 00:22:47.933
I, I've had a lot of jobs.

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Big, big girl jobs,

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very

00:22:49.699 --> 00:22:53.628
different jobs, and just had a lot of big girl jobs for a long time.

00:22:53.749 --> 00:22:56.709
Like that's what happens when you were a volunteer firefighter.

00:22:56.709 --> 00:22:58.929
When you're young, like you have to be super responsible.

00:22:58.929 --> 00:23:12.298
And then that responsibility shows when you're working at like these minimum wage jobs and then you get promoted and then they can make you more responsible to do stuff, and you're like, this sucks, but okay, I can finally pay my rent.

00:23:12.598 --> 00:23:14.638
So you just keep going the manager route.

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And even though.

00:23:15.374 --> 00:23:19.273
It sucks supervising people at low minimum wage jobs.

00:23:19.773 --> 00:23:23.763
It's, I had to fire so many people and I'm really sorry about it.

00:23:23.763 --> 00:23:24.753
It was awful in there.

00:23:24.753 --> 00:23:27.993
Just rules that I just have to follow'em and it sucked and I hated it every time.

00:23:28.473 --> 00:23:31.084
So I just hope they're all okay and I feel bad.

00:23:31.584 --> 00:23:35.124
I still feel bad to this day, but I had to make the restaurants run.

00:23:35.243 --> 00:23:35.868
Oh, I love it.

00:23:35.874 --> 00:23:37.433
I just, you know, you got a task

00:23:37.433 --> 00:23:38.094
assigned to you,

00:23:38.169 --> 00:23:39.173
so you gotta do the work.

00:23:39.203 --> 00:23:41.753
You were, you were at one point the youngest.

00:23:42.253 --> 00:23:43.844
Firefighter in the state of Oregon.

00:23:43.844 --> 00:23:44.413
Is that correct?

00:23:44.473 --> 00:23:48.723
Yeah, there's like a whole bunch of things like that, but I, it is weird.

00:23:48.784 --> 00:23:49.983
No one has that written down.

00:23:49.983 --> 00:23:50.673
They just say it.

00:23:50.733 --> 00:23:51.364
I have it in

00:23:51.364 --> 00:23:51.513
my

00:23:51.513 --> 00:23:52.683
brain, my classes,

00:23:52.683 --> 00:23:54.304
this is the stuff that my brain holds onto.

00:23:54.304 --> 00:23:54.423
But

00:23:54.423 --> 00:24:02.044
I took the last old training of firefighter one and two and now it's like a whole different program.

00:24:02.044 --> 00:24:10.513
So if you go to firefighter school, um, and take the fire science program, you won't get taught the same program I taught and.

00:24:10.923 --> 00:24:12.693
Mine was very hands on.

00:24:13.193 --> 00:24:19.104
They were like, this is how you know the bath so you don't blow up your hose and blah, blah, blah.

00:24:19.104 --> 00:24:21.023
And there was no books involved.

00:24:21.523 --> 00:24:26.298
You just watched the hose and you watched your nozzles and you watched your, and if it blew up, you did it wrong.

00:24:26.614 --> 00:24:28.263
No, you weren't allowed to blow it up.

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They got real mad at you.

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And then they would be like, no, no, no, no.

00:24:31.534 --> 00:24:31.864
Turn that.

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Turn that down.

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But I had some of the best people in my life as.

00:24:37.743 --> 00:24:44.044
Mentors and people who wanted me to succeed in the fire science career, that it was really astounding.

00:24:44.193 --> 00:24:47.844
And there's not a lot of women in fire degrees.

00:24:47.963 --> 00:24:53.064
And I, for me, I had to step out of it because of how mentally hard it was.

00:24:53.558 --> 00:24:54.699
Well, you were also like,

00:24:54.759 --> 00:25:00.159
I was very young, but I also had to like step out of it because of the loss that kept happening.

00:25:00.159 --> 00:25:01.719
And it's just a hard job.

00:25:02.219 --> 00:25:09.419
And I also knew that I couldn't really be a mom and do that job because you're gone for 24, 48 hours sometimes.

00:25:09.419 --> 00:25:10.288
Depends on the shift.

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And I couldn't do that.

00:25:12.409 --> 00:25:14.388
Not when my guy was little, you know?

00:25:14.419 --> 00:25:19.798
So I was just like, I gotta find a job that will allow me to be mom and uh.

00:25:20.298 --> 00:25:22.449
Then I become a therapist gal.

00:25:22.778 --> 00:25:23.798
And I mean, if,

00:25:23.949 --> 00:25:24.483
and I love it.

00:25:24.483 --> 00:25:24.669
Love it.

00:25:24.729 --> 00:25:25.538
I say that, but

00:25:25.538 --> 00:25:31.019
like, if you, if you talk to your child, I mean, if he will speak with you, he's so introverted.

00:25:31.023 --> 00:25:32.548
He's, he is an introverted hermit.

00:25:32.578 --> 00:25:34.919
And I love my boy be all my, he's a preteen right now.

00:25:35.068 --> 00:25:37.318
So add that into the mix.

00:25:37.709 --> 00:25:42.028
But if you talk to him, he is, he's being raised by a therapist.

00:25:42.528 --> 00:25:42.618
Mm-hmm.

00:25:42.858 --> 00:25:42.868
Mm-hmm.

00:25:43.189 --> 00:25:43.519
Yep.

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We're doing okay.

00:25:44.739 --> 00:25:44.919
It's

00:25:44.919 --> 00:25:45.578
doing real good.

00:25:46.074 --> 00:25:46.463
Doing well.

00:25:46.463 --> 00:25:46.614
Good.

00:25:47.114 --> 00:25:58.153
Um, do you think being a firefighter so young and having just that responsibility, how do you think that shaped the career you had, the choices you've made?

00:25:58.153 --> 00:25:59.384
It shaped everything.

00:25:59.884 --> 00:26:11.219
Um, being a volunteer firefighter, it gave me like this incredible sense of responsibility for the community I live in and how incredibly important it's to give back.

00:26:11.719 --> 00:26:19.148
If you have the ability to give back, and that's precious, to be able to go into someone's emergency and be the calm for them.

00:26:19.648 --> 00:26:24.259
And I felt that every single call and I would just walk in and be like, we're gonna be okay.

00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:25.479
Everything's fine.

00:26:25.959 --> 00:26:26.888
You, it's this shit show.

00:26:26.888 --> 00:26:35.838
Yeah, you're bleeding, you're gonna be okay And have like this 16, 17-year-old girl just walk into your house and just be like, it's fine.

00:26:36.338 --> 00:26:37.148
What's up?

00:26:37.449 --> 00:26:39.159
We're gonna get this taken care of.

00:26:39.159 --> 00:26:40.298
Dude, thanks for calling us.

00:26:40.798 --> 00:26:42.304
Man, your driveway's long.

00:26:42.683 --> 00:26:44.578
Do you know how long it took us to get here?

00:26:45.078 --> 00:26:46.999
Golly, I got outta science class though.

00:26:46.999 --> 00:26:47.989
So badass.

00:26:47.989 --> 00:26:49.548
Let's get you on some oxygen.

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I mean, I was, there was so much bravado back then and I just, it was so funny and I worked with, volunteered with the very best humans ever and we all just like looked out for each other.

00:27:01.409 --> 00:27:06.808
It was really amazing, the brotherhood and the support and the good, the hard.

00:27:07.219 --> 00:27:14.219
Yeah, changes you and then you just always want that and you try to replicate it wherever you go.

00:27:14.719 --> 00:27:19.098
And each environment has their own environment and it's not always replicable.

00:27:19.128 --> 00:27:21.739
So you're always just kind of reminiscing of the past.

00:27:22.239 --> 00:27:25.298
I definitely think you need to embroider on a pillow.

00:27:25.628 --> 00:27:26.648
It's a shit show.

00:27:26.648 --> 00:27:28.419
You're bleeding, it's gonna be fine.

00:27:28.919 --> 00:27:32.189
Um, I think that if we came up with that design.

00:27:32.689 --> 00:27:35.223
We could, I don't even know I could shit like that for you.

00:27:35.229 --> 00:27:35.628
I know.

00:27:35.628 --> 00:27:35.989
That's funny.

00:27:35.989 --> 00:27:37.784
That's why I love that we're recording this, but I

00:27:37.788 --> 00:27:38.989
literally did say that.

00:27:38.989 --> 00:27:44.169
I'm sure Hunter and I used to get promoted to all the time, all those difficulty breathing.

00:27:44.169 --> 00:27:45.019
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:45.338 --> 00:27:47.439
And be like, oh, you wanna marry me?

00:27:47.439 --> 00:27:48.189
No, honey.

00:27:48.189 --> 00:27:48.818
Not today.

00:27:48.818 --> 00:27:49.749
Let's put your pants on.

00:27:50.249 --> 00:27:51.959
Why are you always naked when I'm here?

00:27:52.078 --> 00:27:53.459
You don't even be naked when I'm here.

00:27:53.903 --> 00:27:54.023
I,

00:27:54.209 --> 00:27:56.784
I do enjoy lots of naked the stories when you were like.

00:27:57.284 --> 00:28:00.179
Fancy dressed up or stuff and you had to go to phone.

00:28:00.179 --> 00:28:00.614
Don't say that

00:28:00.614 --> 00:28:01.784
when I have a drink in my mouth.

00:28:01.784 --> 00:28:02.534
I'm sorry.

00:28:02.653 --> 00:28:02.864
Oh my God.

00:28:02.864 --> 00:28:05.084
I knew maybe you were gonna almost snort it through your nose.

00:28:05.084 --> 00:28:05.864
That's funny.

00:28:05.923 --> 00:28:07.153
I was reminiscing about that.

00:28:07.153 --> 00:28:07.993
Maybe it was with you.

00:28:08.493 --> 00:28:08.733
Yeah.

00:28:08.733 --> 00:28:11.554
I used to respond in whatever outfit I was in.

00:28:11.554 --> 00:28:17.304
So like if I was at softball, I'd be, I'd respond in my softball outfit and I was.

00:28:17.804 --> 00:28:20.354
On the Linn County Lemon Warfare Fair Court.

00:28:20.354 --> 00:28:21.763
We are among royalty.

00:28:21.763 --> 00:28:23.653
I tell everybody, but she really does.

00:28:23.653 --> 00:28:27.608
And I have stopped telling people that story, but it is loud now and it's, it's, it's

00:28:27.608 --> 00:28:27.729
okay.

00:28:27.733 --> 00:28:28.874
I tell it for her.

00:28:28.993 --> 00:28:29.713
It was fun.

00:28:29.743 --> 00:28:30.973
I had a great time doing it.

00:28:30.973 --> 00:28:37.364
And the other ladies that participated in that were amazing and I have some incredible memories from it.

00:28:37.364 --> 00:28:40.923
So, but at the same time, there were more than.

00:28:41.314 --> 00:28:57.213
More than a few times, several of us would respond, um, to a call in our dresses and I'd be like, stuffing my dress in, my turnouts, getting in the back of the track or whatever to take off and I could hear our like.

00:28:57.618 --> 00:28:59.419
Lady that was coordinating.

00:28:59.479 --> 00:29:00.078
Oh, your dispatchers?

00:29:00.078 --> 00:29:00.679
All of us.

00:29:00.828 --> 00:29:04.898
No, the For the 11 warfare, and her name was Becky.

00:29:04.898 --> 00:29:09.499
And she'd be like, don't you run your dresses, take your off, don't get it.

00:29:09.558 --> 00:29:10.659
Bit with the hat.

00:29:11.159 --> 00:29:12.894
And she was talking about my fire helmet.

00:29:12.923 --> 00:29:14.364
I just cracked up.

00:29:14.864 --> 00:29:15.439
I just loved it.

00:29:15.459 --> 00:29:16.364
It was so fun.

00:29:16.864 --> 00:29:21.284
It really helped channel my desire for activity.

00:29:21.628 --> 00:29:27.398
And just funneled my motivation to do better in a really good way.

00:29:27.578 --> 00:29:35.209
And I really wish that all kids hadn't experienced to volunteer with the police and fire department because we need more of them.

00:29:35.419 --> 00:29:41.348
And it is such an amazing job, but it's so mentally hard and you have to be ready for it.

00:29:41.769 --> 00:29:47.858
And if we introduce people to it, I think it could open up the doors for a lot of safety for people that need it.

00:29:47.949 --> 00:29:48.999
What made you.

00:29:49.499 --> 00:29:51.358
Not even pick, but excuse me.

00:29:51.358 --> 00:29:54.898
How did you come into Firefighter Volunteer firefighting?

00:29:55.019 --> 00:29:56.459
There was nothing else to do in Sao

00:29:56.959 --> 00:29:57.169
Ellie.

00:29:57.169 --> 00:30:01.939
Lived in a teeny, teeny tiny town in, uh, pretty tiny in the Li Valley.

00:30:02.118 --> 00:30:02.328
Yep.

00:30:02.828 --> 00:30:03.909
Uh, very small.

00:30:03.909 --> 00:30:06.368
Like how many people were in your graduating class?

00:30:06.548 --> 00:30:15.818
The population sign for the majority of my life said there were 610 people in the city of Saio, and my family was.

00:30:16.318 --> 00:30:19.098
Five of those people, five of the 610.

00:30:19.598 --> 00:30:25.269
Um, so it's just astounding to me how long those population boards can stay out of data.

00:30:25.298 --> 00:30:28.778
'cause I'm sure it was bigger than that, but I'm sure it's bigger now.

00:30:28.778 --> 00:30:30.788
But there wasn't a whole lot to do.

00:30:30.788 --> 00:30:38.138
We didn't even have a track, you know, like when we went running because of whatever sport we were playing, we had to run on the highway.

00:30:38.638 --> 00:30:39.269
Which is crazy.

00:30:39.403 --> 00:30:42.028
It's crazy thinking about that, but you know.

00:30:42.028 --> 00:30:42.298
Yeah.

00:30:42.298 --> 00:30:43.348
The nineties for sure.

00:30:43.469 --> 00:30:45.719
And they're like, don't get, don't get hit by.

00:30:45.719 --> 00:30:47.419
The tricks ain't coming.

00:30:47.919 --> 00:30:49.179
Well, no shit, Sherlock.

00:30:49.179 --> 00:30:49.538
All right.

00:30:49.538 --> 00:30:50.108
Good idea.

00:30:50.378 --> 00:30:50.828
Thank you.

00:30:51.328 --> 00:30:57.634
Um, so there really wasn't a lot to do and you can only ride your bike for so long and there's a lot of shenanigan.

00:30:58.134 --> 00:31:05.423
If you don't channel those shenanigans, then you're gonna continue to get into more shenanigans, which kind of means you're gonna live in a shit show.

00:31:05.923 --> 00:31:11.824
And I already was tiptoeing there and I just was like, I got a course correct.

00:31:11.884 --> 00:31:18.773
I don't, I don't actually want to mess my life up in some way that I probably could if I continue doing things that.

00:31:19.273 --> 00:31:19.814
I shouldn't do.

00:31:20.314 --> 00:31:20.824
I was like, yeah.

00:31:20.824 --> 00:31:22.193
I have not seen a lot

00:31:22.193 --> 00:31:22.413
like Right.

00:31:22.413 --> 00:31:25.273
It's like, let's be, let's be as non-descript as possible.

00:31:25.773 --> 00:31:25.834
Yeah.

00:31:25.834 --> 00:31:26.433
You know, things like,

00:31:26.933 --> 00:31:30.979
we're kids in the country and there's like, you know, the nineties, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:31:30.983 --> 00:31:32.903
In the where I, I can't say it out loud.

00:31:32.903 --> 00:31:34.463
You have No, it's on recording.

00:31:34.463 --> 00:31:34.703
It's not

00:31:34.703 --> 00:31:35.153
appropriate.

00:31:35.153 --> 00:31:36.733
It, it's not appropriate.

00:31:37.213 --> 00:31:37.844
Do I need to say it?

00:31:37.844 --> 00:31:38.263
No, I'm not

00:31:38.263 --> 00:31:38.564
saying

00:31:38.564 --> 00:31:39.634
it anyway.

00:31:40.023 --> 00:31:41.193
Ellie's from the country.

00:31:41.253 --> 00:31:41.584
Don't

00:31:41.584 --> 00:31:41.973
say that.

00:31:41.973 --> 00:31:43.084
That's how she says it.

00:31:43.114 --> 00:31:43.743
It's not true.

00:31:43.804 --> 00:31:49.044
And so if you ever encounter her in public and you hear her say, country, I just need you to know.

00:31:49.163 --> 00:31:49.253
Mm-hmm.

00:31:49.753 --> 00:31:52.034
She's on her best city behavior.

00:31:52.094 --> 00:31:52.513
I am on

00:31:52.513 --> 00:31:53.054
a good behavior.

00:31:53.554 --> 00:31:56.544
Um, I say city behavior, I know a dork.

00:31:57.023 --> 00:31:58.644
So where was I?

00:31:59.124 --> 00:32:03.344
Um, we're talking about how tiny, small Assiah was.

00:32:03.344 --> 00:32:03.644
Yeah.

00:32:03.824 --> 00:32:04.273
So around the track.

00:32:04.328 --> 00:32:05.683
So I started hanging out with.

00:32:06.183 --> 00:32:21.253
The fire chief who was newer at the time, and he had daughters kinda my age and they started school and we all went to the same school and church and everything because there's five churches in the town and like only one had a youth program.

00:32:21.253 --> 00:32:27.753
So I mean, there really wasn't anything to do but that, or sports and or work.

00:32:27.784 --> 00:32:30.304
And I worked a lot, so I was like, I gotta play when I can.

00:32:30.693 --> 00:32:34.124
And I ended up hanging out with.

00:32:34.624 --> 00:32:35.763
His daughters quite a bit.

00:32:35.763 --> 00:32:44.213
And so we'd stop by the, you know, the fire district office and say hi to chief and I was like, Hey, what are you gonna, lemme sign up.

00:32:44.213 --> 00:32:45.534
And he is like, why do you wanna do that?

00:32:45.534 --> 00:32:46.314
And I'm like, I don't know.

00:32:46.314 --> 00:32:47.003
It sounds like fine.

00:32:47.003 --> 00:32:48.324
You need light shit on fire.

00:32:48.824 --> 00:32:50.864
And he's like, there's so much more to it.

00:32:50.864 --> 00:32:54.163
And I'm like, nah, to this day, nah, you just light shit on fire.

00:32:54.163 --> 00:32:57.403
If Ellie knows that she can light shit on fire, she's in.

00:32:57.463 --> 00:32:58.513
I'm always in.

00:32:58.513 --> 00:32:59.098
That's so fun.

00:32:59.098 --> 00:33:00.854
She's in a hundred percent of the time.

00:33:00.943 --> 00:33:01.693
It's so fun.

00:33:01.753 --> 00:33:03.493
My birthday, we're gonna have some candles.

00:33:03.993 --> 00:33:05.493
Are you gonna be in charge of lighting them on fire?

00:33:05.554 --> 00:33:06.903
No, you're, that's your birthday.

00:33:07.114 --> 00:33:07.564
I'm gonna blow

00:33:07.564 --> 00:33:07.953
em out.

00:33:07.953 --> 00:33:08.884
Birthdays are different.

00:33:08.943 --> 00:33:10.354
That's not lighting shit on fire.

00:33:10.594 --> 00:33:11.733
We're lighting some shit on fire.

00:33:11.794 --> 00:33:13.443
This little tiny cupcake is not the same.

00:33:13.943 --> 00:33:21.564
Anyway, so I used to razz him about it and he was like, all right, well it's hard and you gotta start coming down to drill.

00:33:21.804 --> 00:33:23.153
And I was like, when is that?

00:33:23.153 --> 00:33:28.503
And he's like, Monday after, or Monday evening's, like seven to 9:00 PM and I was like, sign me up.

00:33:28.624 --> 00:33:29.134
I'll be there.

00:33:29.634 --> 00:33:36.463
So every Monday night for years I was down stationed six, four to five till about nine 15.

00:33:36.963 --> 00:33:46.003
Going through drills, learning everything I could learn, getting taught by all the guys and gals down there, and learning how to do a lot of work and save lives.

00:33:46.003 --> 00:33:46.364
And

00:33:46.723 --> 00:33:49.124
how old were you when you started showing up for drill?

00:33:49.624 --> 00:33:54.503
Uh, they let me fill out the application three days before I turned 15.

00:33:55.003 --> 00:33:55.334
15.

00:33:55.834 --> 00:33:56.074
Yeah.

00:33:56.284 --> 00:33:56.794
For drill

00:33:56.884 --> 00:33:58.173
or to start volunteering?

00:33:58.534 --> 00:34:00.034
I don't know, 15 or 16.

00:34:00.034 --> 00:34:00.364
One of those.

00:34:00.364 --> 00:34:02.104
I think I was 15'cause I couldn't drive.

00:34:02.604 --> 00:34:03.683
I don't think I could drive yet.

00:34:03.834 --> 00:34:05.304
You could drive farm equipment but not cars.

00:34:05.304 --> 00:34:05.604
Well, that's

00:34:05.604 --> 00:34:06.173
different.

00:34:06.413 --> 00:34:07.104
Yeah, because

00:34:07.163 --> 00:34:10.733
the, I don't understand why that's different, but I grew up in the suburbs.

00:34:11.213 --> 00:34:11.628
I know, yeah, I know.

00:34:11.634 --> 00:34:11.844
They would

00:34:11.844 --> 00:34:17.873
let us drive these giant combines at like 12, 13 years old, but we couldn't fucking drive on the road.

00:34:18.373 --> 00:34:19.304
Alright, sure.

00:34:19.804 --> 00:34:27.773
But yeah, we, I mean, but I got my driver's license right when I turned 16, so I must've, it must've been before I was 15 or when I was 15.

00:34:27.864 --> 00:34:28.764
And then.

00:34:29.264 --> 00:34:32.233
I was just a cadet, you know, and so I was just learning everything.

00:34:32.233 --> 00:34:35.264
I wasn't gonna wanna fire calls or anything at that time'cause I was too young.

00:34:35.324 --> 00:34:40.204
And then at 16 I was able to start taking the classes and, um, doing more, yeah.

00:34:40.204 --> 00:34:40.713
Hands on.

00:34:40.773 --> 00:34:41.704
And I loved it.

00:34:41.704 --> 00:34:43.173
I really enjoyed it a lot.

00:34:43.534 --> 00:34:43.623
Yeah.

00:34:43.684 --> 00:34:46.074
And it just kept growing from there.

00:34:46.074 --> 00:34:50.543
And I really thought that I would do like a paramedic and.

00:34:51.043 --> 00:34:52.903
Er sort of rotation or something.

00:34:52.903 --> 00:34:55.994
I really like the medical side of it, but like fighting fire was real fun too.

00:34:56.494 --> 00:35:12.844
Um, and I was also like working full time at, um, a company in several different towns and I was having to drive to down in Newport and Lincoln City and all over several times a week and it was just so much, um.

00:35:13.344 --> 00:35:18.893
And then I got started thinking about having a family and started thinking about what else I could do.

00:35:19.393 --> 00:35:26.324
And I got my bachelor's degree in criminal justice administration thinking that I would do something like that.

00:35:26.824 --> 00:35:34.134
Um, and then I did a whole 180 and went to, um, work on my master's in mental health counseling.

00:35:34.634 --> 00:35:35.653
And I don't regret it.

00:35:36.153 --> 00:35:38.463
You don't,'cause you made me go to grad school.

00:35:38.554 --> 00:35:38.974
I did.

00:35:38.974 --> 00:35:42.153
I actually just tell everyone to go to grad school, like just do it.

00:35:42.653 --> 00:35:43.313
It's awful.

00:35:43.554 --> 00:35:45.773
It's truly the hardest thing ever.

00:35:46.224 --> 00:35:47.123
Um, and.

00:35:47.623 --> 00:35:48.344
It sucks.

00:35:48.494 --> 00:35:48.824
Okay.

00:35:48.824 --> 00:35:50.143
And you have to drink.

00:35:50.204 --> 00:35:54.523
Well, I, I don't want a precursory for anyone, but it's better if you drink through it.

00:35:55.023 --> 00:35:55.954
CS get degrees.

00:35:56.284 --> 00:36:03.213
I have never in my entire life other than justifying the degree done'cause it's, they graduated too early to confer it.

00:36:03.634 --> 00:36:08.643
Um, I've never asked anyone for their class list as long as they have the degree and they can prove it.

00:36:08.643 --> 00:36:09.364
I good.

00:36:09.724 --> 00:36:11.193
You, you should know it.

00:36:11.434 --> 00:36:11.733
Yeah.

00:36:12.153 --> 00:36:15.514
And if you don't, I'm gonna let you know and I'll find If I'm your supervisor Yeah.

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:15.918
I'll know.

00:36:16.083 --> 00:36:17.583
You can only fake it so long.

00:36:17.673 --> 00:36:18.454
Exactly.

00:36:18.724 --> 00:36:23.373
And uh, so it was just really, um, satisfying for me Yeah.

00:36:23.373 --> 00:36:24.244
To transition that way.

00:36:24.744 --> 00:36:29.304
Well, and you transition from a helping profession where you could light shit on fire

00:36:29.543 --> 00:36:29.634
mm-hmm.

00:36:30.134 --> 00:36:32.684
To a different type of helping.

00:36:32.864 --> 00:36:34.153
I used to come out of the burglars with

00:36:34.153 --> 00:36:35.773
metaphorical fires.

00:36:36.103 --> 00:36:43.273
I used to get outta the burn to learns and check to see if I still had my eyelashes and rub my fingers on there and check to see if I still eyebrows.

00:36:43.514 --> 00:36:44.833
Do you ever lose either of those?

00:36:44.864 --> 00:36:45.134
No.

00:36:45.134 --> 00:36:46.903
But sometimes it get a little cinched.

00:36:46.903 --> 00:36:47.744
It was so hot.

00:36:47.864 --> 00:36:48.164
Oh God.

00:36:48.664 --> 00:36:49.954
I used to get steam burned.

00:36:50.284 --> 00:36:54.273
Ooh, your sweat would, uh, burn you between the layer of the turnouts.

00:36:54.773 --> 00:36:56.753
Um,'cause it gets so hot and gets steam.

00:36:56.753 --> 00:36:57.219
Burn stink.

00:36:57.219 --> 00:36:57.773
That stink.

00:36:57.893 --> 00:36:58.403
Terrible.

00:36:58.434 --> 00:36:58.614
Yeah,

00:36:58.614 --> 00:36:59.364
it was pretty rough.

00:36:59.543 --> 00:37:04.914
I don't like those, those like the worst that, well, that's not true, but that's one of the most frequent injuries I used to get.

00:37:04.974 --> 00:37:06.403
Ooh, frequent injuries.

00:37:06.643 --> 00:37:08.324
That's what I mean is he is like, like, you're doing hard shit.

00:37:08.324 --> 00:37:09.253
You're always gonna get hurt.

00:37:09.373 --> 00:37:09.943
Well, yeah.

00:37:10.443 --> 00:37:18.094
Um, but yeah, I enjoyed it a lot and I worked with the very best people who really, really gave a lot.

00:37:18.594 --> 00:37:20.724
To participate and to do it well.

00:37:20.724 --> 00:37:25.543
And it's just incredibly hard, especially as a volunteer,'cause you just never know who's gonna show up.

00:37:25.574 --> 00:37:34.414
And there's just, a lot of times there's just two or three of us and then we'd wait a couple more minutes and like maybe one other person would show up and we're like, okay, we gotta go.

00:37:34.833 --> 00:37:35.693
Let's all

00:37:35.693 --> 00:37:36.653
this is what we got.

00:37:36.653 --> 00:37:36.954
Yeah.

00:37:36.954 --> 00:37:41.534
Like we're rolling with two 17 year olds and a 22-year-old, you know, up with

00:37:41.708 --> 00:37:43.028
some fire shit out.

00:37:43.528 --> 00:37:44.068
I'm on the

00:37:44.068 --> 00:37:44.268
way.

00:37:44.768 --> 00:37:45.219
It gets very

00:37:45.219 --> 00:37:45.668
exciting.

00:37:45.753 --> 00:37:46.534
Yeah.

00:37:46.539 --> 00:37:46.659
Mm-hmm.

00:37:46.833 --> 00:37:47.884
It sounds like it.

00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:48.139
Mm-hmm.

00:37:48.393 --> 00:37:49.594
I'm gonna pass on that.

00:37:50.043 --> 00:37:50.463
I was very

00:37:50.463 --> 00:37:50.733
excited

00:37:50.733 --> 00:37:51.003
about it.

00:37:51.184 --> 00:37:52.494
Yeah, we

00:37:52.494 --> 00:37:52.853
um,

00:37:52.884 --> 00:37:57.134
I'm glad'cause I could not have done that, I don't think at all.

00:37:57.434 --> 00:37:58.123
No, it's okay.

00:37:58.123 --> 00:37:58.873
It's not for everyone.

00:37:58.873 --> 00:38:03.193
But I do wish more people had the opportunity to experience it early on.

00:38:03.224 --> 00:38:05.773
'cause it is so significantly impacting.

00:38:05.773 --> 00:38:05.864
Well,

00:38:06.043 --> 00:38:13.193
I don't, I don't remember ever hearing that as a teenager you could go and do something like that at all.

00:38:13.693 --> 00:38:15.764
I have so much bravado though that I'm just like,

00:38:15.764 --> 00:38:16.784
that's not a lie.

00:38:16.934 --> 00:38:18.853
I'll just, I can do it if I want to.

00:38:19.094 --> 00:38:20.233
What's, I'm old enough.

00:38:20.233 --> 00:38:20.474
Sure.

00:38:20.833 --> 00:38:23.594
I, I, I've always said fake it till you make it.

00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:23.878
Mm-hmm.

00:38:23.963 --> 00:38:26.384
But until I met you, I didn't know.

00:38:26.384 --> 00:38:27.824
And this is not a dig, this is at all.

00:38:27.824 --> 00:38:28.423
No, I know.

00:38:28.429 --> 00:38:28.559
I know.

00:38:28.724 --> 00:38:33.313
But until I met you, I didn't know that you could do that and be successful.

00:38:33.373 --> 00:38:33.793
Oh yeah.

00:38:34.293 --> 00:38:36.094
Because if you believe you can do it.

00:38:36.588 --> 00:38:36.918
Can't.

00:38:36.918 --> 00:38:37.608
It's already done.

00:38:37.668 --> 00:38:38.478
It's already done.

00:38:38.478 --> 00:38:41.748
And you don't have to convince everyone else they're gonna see you do it.

00:38:41.898 --> 00:38:41.958
Yeah.

00:38:42.458 --> 00:38:44.199
I didn't know that that was a real thing.

00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:45.719
And then I met you,

00:38:46.219 --> 00:38:47.693
and now later you can make a bajillion years later.

00:38:47.699 --> 00:38:49.728
Anything in your life if you want happen.

00:38:50.228 --> 00:38:51.548
I'm a big, big band fest.

00:38:52.048 --> 00:38:53.489
Yes, Ellie manifests.

00:38:53.989 --> 00:38:59.259
I love it when we go places because I drive and she's my passenger princess and she navigates for me.

00:38:59.259 --> 00:38:59.588
I'm very

00:38:59.588 --> 00:38:59.889
good at

00:38:59.889 --> 00:38:59.949
it.

00:38:59.949 --> 00:39:00.579
She's very good at it.

00:39:00.579 --> 00:39:00.699
She's djj.

00:39:00.728 --> 00:39:01.449
You gotta tell me

00:39:01.449 --> 00:39:02.228
though, if you're.

00:39:02.708 --> 00:39:06.458
If I'm supposed to be navigating, you have to tell me to tell me, because otherwise I assume you got it.

00:39:06.458 --> 00:39:07.509
'cause I'm not in charge.

00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:14.639
And we, we navigate differently, which we have really only discovered in the last handful of years.

00:39:15.139 --> 00:39:15.918
Uh, I

00:39:15.918 --> 00:39:17.869
feel like that's a separate podcast in itself.

00:39:18.369 --> 00:39:26.338
But when we drive places, um, I get the best parking spots if I'm with Ellie because she manifests Good Park.

00:39:26.489 --> 00:39:28.228
We're talking like, like every time holiday.

00:39:28.728 --> 00:39:28.969
Yeah.

00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.108
Time of your parking spots.

00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:32.289
Yep.

00:39:32.789 --> 00:39:33.659
We're getting the very best one.

00:39:33.659 --> 00:39:34.559
It's glorious.

00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:35.159
It's the one I want.

00:39:35.659 --> 00:39:41.889
I don't, I I I need to learn more of your manifestation, uh, skills.

00:39:41.978 --> 00:39:42.548
It's about being

00:39:42.548 --> 00:39:43.599
in the right frequency.

00:39:44.099 --> 00:39:44.728
Receiving.

00:39:45.208 --> 00:39:45.568
Alright,

00:39:45.568 --> 00:39:46.199
well I'll work on

00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:46.378
that.

00:39:46.384 --> 00:39:46.634
Mm-hmm.

00:39:46.934 --> 00:39:47.353
Mm-hmm.

00:39:47.699 --> 00:39:49.114
That's another podcast we can talk about.

00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:49.318
I know.

00:39:49.318 --> 00:39:50.759
I'm, I'm big into manifesting.

00:39:51.259 --> 00:39:55.389
I recently challenged the universe and said, show me how good it can get.

00:39:55.418 --> 00:39:56.889
'cause I was at like rock bottom.

00:39:57.389 --> 00:39:57.688
And then.

00:39:58.188 --> 00:40:05.628
And then it did, and I am still just like stunned every day since then and or the meds are working.

00:40:05.628 --> 00:40:06.139
You know?

00:40:06.139 --> 00:40:06.648
It's both.

00:40:06.739 --> 00:40:14.478
I think it's both and it's literally be careful what you ask for when you tell the universe,

00:40:14.514 --> 00:40:15.094
my God.

00:40:15.594 --> 00:40:16.434
What you got.

00:40:16.494 --> 00:40:17.034
Wow.

00:40:17.333 --> 00:40:18.954
Because you, you did that.

00:40:19.099 --> 00:40:19.458
I did it.

00:40:19.458 --> 00:40:19.554
I did.

00:40:19.554 --> 00:40:22.193
And I, I said it like a challenge too.

00:40:22.193 --> 00:40:24.293
I was like, alright, fuck you bitches.

00:40:24.293 --> 00:40:24.864
She literally was

00:40:24.864 --> 00:40:26.514
like, you know what, fuck you.

00:40:26.903 --> 00:40:27.923
Show me what you got.

00:40:27.923 --> 00:40:30.353
And I was like, maybe, maybe don't piss off the universe.

00:40:30.384 --> 00:40:30.594
No.

00:40:30.594 --> 00:40:32.244
Maybe you don't say that to the universe.

00:40:32.744 --> 00:40:34.123
God, I'm still stunned.

00:40:34.123 --> 00:40:34.934
Like every day.

00:40:34.934 --> 00:40:38.713
It's been a month and like a couple of days since I said that.

00:40:38.713 --> 00:40:42.123
And I am stunned every day since then.

00:40:42.543 --> 00:40:46.134
It's been a very transformative summer.

00:40:46.634 --> 00:40:46.724
Yeah.

00:40:47.224 --> 00:40:48.184
Oh my God.

00:40:48.184 --> 00:40:48.514
Yeah.

00:40:49.014 --> 00:40:52.614
It's a lot of transition and it's a lot of, a lot of big change.

00:40:53.094 --> 00:40:53.423
Yeah.

00:40:53.423 --> 00:40:57.653
And I didn't, it's a lot of big change that wasn't expected in any way.

00:40:57.954 --> 00:40:58.224
Yeah.

00:40:58.554 --> 00:41:02.423
I didn't, I couldn't for told any of this, even though I think.

00:41:02.903 --> 00:41:12.244
I was having a lot of body issues in conjunction with it, and I just wasn't willing to see it because I'm hardheaded What I know.

00:41:12.744 --> 00:41:24.423
I just counter it to like resilience, but sometimes being resilience is awful and like you should just prioritize whatever you want because you're replaceable.

00:41:24.923 --> 00:41:25.193
Yeah.

00:41:25.693 --> 00:41:28.123
And I think that is the grossest part of it all.

00:41:28.623 --> 00:41:29.074
Yeah.

00:41:29.074 --> 00:41:29.744
And I

00:41:29.744 --> 00:41:29.784
think

00:41:29.789 --> 00:41:30.418
it's hurt my heart.

00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:31.228
It, yeah.

00:41:31.378 --> 00:41:32.458
It's, it's been rough.

00:41:32.489 --> 00:41:40.208
And at the same time, you have rediscovered something that you've loved, that you hadn't been able to do for a while.

00:41:40.568 --> 00:41:40.869
Yeah.

00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:43.469
And it's, no, it's not anything inappropriate.

00:41:43.588 --> 00:41:43.648
No.

00:41:43.648 --> 00:41:44.938
Could you outta the gutter?

00:41:44.943 --> 00:41:46.079
It's, it's a different podcast.

00:41:46.579 --> 00:41:47.358
It's different episode.

00:41:47.358 --> 00:41:47.509
Yeah.

00:41:47.509 --> 00:41:48.458
No, I am, I'll do that one day.

00:41:48.958 --> 00:41:51.559
I'm just back to providing therapy.

00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:51.619
Yeah.

00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.028
And I love it.

00:41:53.028 --> 00:41:56.329
Like, it's not like I'm back, but like I'm back bitches.

00:41:56.329 --> 00:41:59.389
It's like that, like it's so, it's literally so fun.

00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:07.438
I, I do the majority of remote and there are some sessions that I'm like, dude, that was like the best freaking therapy session ever.

00:42:07.938 --> 00:42:10.934
I'm like, you know that like I'm telling my clients that and they're like, yeah.

00:42:10.994 --> 00:42:12.559
And I'm like, yeah, I'll see you next week.

00:42:12.898 --> 00:42:13.119
Bye.

00:42:13.619 --> 00:42:14.639
And it's just so fun.

00:42:14.793 --> 00:42:17.313
I'm just like, yeah, these people are amazing.

00:42:17.313 --> 00:42:32.184
And there's like, ah, it's just so fulfilling to see them be beautiful humans and to like try when I was surrounded by people who are beautiful, but I was also surrounded by people who.

00:42:32.684 --> 00:42:35.204
Weren't really trying to be beautiful humans.

00:42:35.233 --> 00:42:36.494
Mind I say catty bitches.

00:42:36.793 --> 00:42:37.664
Those are my words.

00:42:38.164 --> 00:42:38.793
Catty bitches.

00:42:39.063 --> 00:42:39.664
I'm just surprised.

00:42:39.724 --> 00:42:41.043
I'm surprised by it all.

00:42:41.043 --> 00:42:41.103
Yeah.

00:42:41.134 --> 00:42:42.903
I still can't like conceptualize it all.

00:42:42.903 --> 00:42:42.963
Yeah.

00:42:42.963 --> 00:42:56.463
I'm just, I'm truly surprised by the outcome of all of this, and I never expected it to happen, but I'm here and I am walking forward into a brand new chapter.

00:42:56.963 --> 00:42:58.643
And it feels right.

00:42:59.143 --> 00:43:04.443
I feel more in tune with myself than I have in a long time, and I'm ready.

00:43:04.943 --> 00:43:08.333
I think maybe that's the simple as it gets is like I just ready Yeah.

00:43:08.333 --> 00:43:14.614
For whatever's next, because my pre-designed life is no longer predesigned.

00:43:15.063 --> 00:43:15.123
Yeah.

00:43:15.123 --> 00:43:18.063
Everything is up in the air, literally, and I'm just like.

00:43:18.563 --> 00:43:25.704
I'm moving forward with what feels right with my sacral response and my heart, and I'm not gonna let my anxious mind ruin it.

00:43:26.204 --> 00:43:31.543
And my anxious mind has actually been very quiet, so I know that it's a good decision.

00:43:31.753 --> 00:43:32.054
Yeah.

00:43:32.554 --> 00:43:35.773
And I'm moving forward with like hope.

00:43:36.273 --> 00:43:36.483
Yeah.

00:43:36.483 --> 00:43:36.784
But I don't

00:43:36.784 --> 00:43:39.833
know for what yet, but just hope, which is.

00:43:40.333 --> 00:43:41.503
Huge on its own.

00:43:41.684 --> 00:43:41.833
Mm-hmm.

00:43:42.134 --> 00:43:49.054
Having hope is hard, having, having a positive outlook of any kind right now is, is just hard in general.

00:43:49.554 --> 00:43:50.153
But yes,

00:43:50.213 --> 00:44:03.364
I, I can watch some political things now, but I had to go for a period of time and like wean myself off'cause I just had so much of a mental and physical reaction to it all.

00:44:03.864 --> 00:44:11.463
Um, it was dysregulating me throughout the day and I couldn't get regulated in like a mental sense, I guess.

00:44:11.463 --> 00:44:15.514
Like I was able just to go through my day and still like do the laundry and make dinner and all that shit.

00:44:15.514 --> 00:44:15.724
Right?

00:44:15.724 --> 00:44:24.784
But like, I was mad about the state of the universe and I was, you know, I'm like, I have no fucking control over any of that, so who cares?

00:44:25.284 --> 00:44:25.554
Yeah.

00:44:25.853 --> 00:44:30.893
So now I'm more in this like passive, just like I'm just a participant on this rock.

00:44:31.393 --> 00:44:33.184
That I wish everybody would quit ruining.

00:44:33.438 --> 00:44:33.858
Mm-hmm.

00:44:33.938 --> 00:44:35.054
Quit throwing their shit away.

00:44:35.554 --> 00:44:35.853
Yes.

00:44:35.943 --> 00:44:37.173
And Ashley Recycle Act.

00:44:37.623 --> 00:44:40.014
I'm still, it's fucking stayed in Nevada.

00:44:40.373 --> 00:44:42.384
I am never gonna forgive them.

00:44:42.884 --> 00:44:47.083
They don't even have any fucking recycling centers and they're the number one vacation place.

00:44:47.233 --> 00:44:47.833
Rude.

00:44:47.923 --> 00:44:50.833
Ellie went until Vegas for the first time, time last summer, and I'm still not okay.

00:44:50.833 --> 00:44:52.273
She's still not okay about it.

00:44:52.393 --> 00:44:53.443
It was very upsetting.

00:44:53.503 --> 00:44:54.668
I got multiple text message was, was it last

00:44:54.668 --> 00:44:54.914
summer?

00:44:54.974 --> 00:44:55.873
It was last summer.

00:44:56.143 --> 00:44:56.443
No.

00:44:56.943 --> 00:44:57.333
Yeah,

00:44:57.833 --> 00:44:57.923
I

00:44:57.923 --> 00:44:58.344
think

00:44:58.614 --> 00:44:59.304
maybe Tuesday.

00:44:59.333 --> 00:44:59.963
I don't even know.

00:44:59.963 --> 00:45:00.173
No, I

00:45:00.173 --> 00:45:01.193
think it was last night.

00:45:01.583 --> 00:45:03.704
I don't even know, but I'm never going again.

00:45:04.204 --> 00:45:04.804
You can't say

00:45:04.804 --> 00:45:05.284
never.

00:45:05.523 --> 00:45:12.204
Well, I still feel bad about the amount of recyclables that I left there and they're in their landfills.

00:45:12.704 --> 00:45:16.108
We can bring in extra duffle bag, put, put recyclables in and bring them home and recycle'em.

00:45:16.608 --> 00:45:18.889
I know that recycling is not end all, be all, blah, blah, blah.

00:45:19.309 --> 00:45:22.748
I've read the statistics, I read the apple, but it still helps, but it's better than nothing.

00:45:22.748 --> 00:45:24.668
And it's like the number one vacation spot.

00:45:25.168 --> 00:45:25.648
I love that.

00:45:25.648 --> 00:45:28.349
You just tact old fucking people on the pause.

00:45:28.349 --> 00:45:29.639
We call that edactly.

00:45:29.728 --> 00:45:30.268
It's what happens.

00:45:30.268 --> 00:45:31.168
I get all mad about it.

00:45:31.168 --> 00:45:31.619
Mm-hmm.

00:45:31.625 --> 00:45:36.119
It's, it's a good, it's a good uh, uh, energy release.

00:45:36.619 --> 00:45:37.009
It pisses

00:45:37.009 --> 00:45:37.518
me off.

00:45:38.018 --> 00:45:38.619
It does that too.

00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:39.909
Click, click, click.

00:45:40.409 --> 00:45:42.748
Well, thanks for, uh, thanks for chatting with me today.

00:45:43.248 --> 00:45:44.509
We're gonna chat again.

00:45:45.009 --> 00:45:45.489
Are we done?

00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:46.449
Yeah, we can be.

00:45:46.869 --> 00:45:50.878
Oh, we don't have to be, I mean, you know, we hit, we are at 49 minutes.

00:45:50.938 --> 00:45:51.088
Oh.

00:45:51.588 --> 00:45:52.489
So, you know.

00:45:52.909 --> 00:45:53.298
Wow.

00:45:53.798 --> 00:45:53.978
Yeah.

00:45:53.978 --> 00:45:56.034
I, well, what should we talk about next?

00:45:56.123 --> 00:45:57.623
I don't, we always have a lot of things to

00:45:57.623 --> 00:45:57.833
talk about.

00:45:57.833 --> 00:45:58.253
We do.

00:45:58.753 --> 00:46:01.753
Well, let's, let's wrap this one up and then we can talk again.

00:46:02.023 --> 00:46:02.054
Okay.

00:46:06.023 --> 00:46:16.284
So with that, I'm gonna go, I'm currently editing this episode with Lily curled up next to me, and surprisingly not an ALA insight.

00:46:17.304 --> 00:46:23.963
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00:46:42.204 --> 00:46:47.753
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00:46:48.054 --> 00:46:52.193
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00:46:52.733 --> 00:46:54.653
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00:46:56.153 --> 00:47:02.213
I just feel like everyone needs a sit stand desk and kids need a lot more movement and they need a lot more hands on.

00:47:02.213 --> 00:47:03.833
And I Leah, wait.

00:47:08.753 --> 00:47:11.123
Come here Leo.

00:47:11.514 --> 00:47:12.563
I can't do anything.

00:47:12.563 --> 00:47:13.068
I know I'm coming.

00:47:14.909 --> 00:47:15.748
Leo, come here.

00:47:18.778 --> 00:47:21.778
I'm literally covered in wine.

00:47:25.768 --> 00:47:27.088
Oh, Leo, come here.

00:47:27.148 --> 00:47:27.358
Ugh.

00:47:28.168 --> 00:47:29.039
What are you doing?

00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:29.458
Come here.

00:47:30.728 --> 00:47:33.759
Wine, Leo.

00:47:33.759 --> 00:47:35.108
Remember how we said no to hooting?

00:47:35.139 --> 00:47:35.528
Okay.

00:47:37.534 --> 00:47:37.824
Okay.

00:47:39.369 --> 00:47:40.208
I gotta go the wife off.

00:47:40.688 --> 00:47:40.989
Yep.

00:47:42.684 --> 00:47:50.438
Leo, I'm covered in wine because he pulled me over.

00:47:50.528 --> 00:47:51.248
I love that boy.

00:47:51.248 --> 00:47:52.088
But all the way over.

00:47:56.784 --> 00:47:57.143
I have never.

00:47:58.434 --> 00:48:01.554
Swung back that fast in my whole life.

00:48:02.333 --> 00:48:06.083
But he's gonna stay inside with you now because I'm done.

00:48:08.244 --> 00:48:08.753
Wow.

00:48:09.804 --> 00:48:13.108
I have to tell you, I have never had that happen in my whole life.

00:48:13.108 --> 00:48:14.543
That has never happened before.

00:48:14.724 --> 00:48:16.554
You still ended up with wine in your glass?

00:48:16.733 --> 00:48:17.454
I don't even know how.

00:48:17.693 --> 00:48:19.193
I literally have one in my eyeball.

00:48:20.123 --> 00:48:20.813
I believe it.

00:48:20.813 --> 00:48:21.264
I'm okay.

00:48:22.373 --> 00:48:23.903
He needs, I gotta, I dunno what to do.

00:48:23.903 --> 00:48:25.284
There's still someone on the chair somewhere.

00:48:25.284 --> 00:48:26.483
I don't know what, I don't even know.

00:48:26.844 --> 00:48:27.864
I'm covered it though.

00:48:28.733 --> 00:48:28.974
I'm good.

00:48:28.974 --> 00:48:29.938
Do you need to change?

00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:30.378
No.

00:48:31.434 --> 00:48:34.284
It's the end of the day and it's black.

00:48:35.003 --> 00:48:35.514
That's true.

00:48:35.603 --> 00:48:35.963
Thank you.

00:48:36.293 --> 00:48:36.864
You're welcome.

00:48:38.003 --> 00:48:39.563
She, I was like, I literally can't do anything literal.

00:48:39.563 --> 00:48:45.594
Literally couldn't get out of my chair fast enough and I was like, I just to out, I was grab the dog up.

00:48:45.594 --> 00:48:47.123
I'm gonna show people my haw.

00:48:48.804 --> 00:48:50.208
It's a good thing you weren't wearing the other dress.

00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:53.869
Oh no, I thought about wearing that one too, and then I was like, well, Sloane will be there.

00:48:55.518 --> 00:48:56.539
Oh, that's found some mine.

00:48:57.643 --> 00:48:57.934
Fuck.

00:48:58.998 --> 00:48:59.568
Hey dog.

00:49:00.853 --> 00:49:01.733
I love him.

00:49:02.934 --> 00:49:03.494
I love him.

00:49:05.148 --> 00:49:05.329
I.

00:49:07.358 --> 00:49:07.539
I love him.

Ellie Jones

Mom

I am fabulous