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Discipline for Fun
Discipline for Fun

Send us a text Content Warning: This episode contains discussions about alcohol, abstention from alcohol, and personal experiences with drinking. Please listen at your comfort level. In this episode of "Sorry, That's My Inside Voice," Kat sits down with her friend, Trisha Buck, for an honest and lighthearted conversation about transitions, tea, wine, and the decision to abstain from alcohol for a year. Trisha shares her motivations for giving up drinking, the challenges and surprises she enco...

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Season 3

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Content Warning:
This episode contains discussions about alcohol, abstention from alcohol, and personal experiences with drinking. Please listen at your comfort level.

In this episode of "Sorry, That's My Inside Voice," Kat sits down with her friend, Trisha Buck, for an honest and lighthearted conversation about transitions, tea, wine, and the decision to abstain from alcohol for a year. Trisha shares her motivations for giving up drinking, the challenges and surprises she encountered along the way, and how it has changed her social life and self-discipline. The two friends reminisce about their own drinking experiences, swap stories about their favorite beverages, and reflect on the social dynamics of drinking and abstaining. With plenty of humor, personal anecdotes, and a few tangents about tea and cats, this episode offers a candid look at making intentional life changes and supporting friends through them.

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This episode of sorry.

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That's my inside voice contains content related to alcohol, abstention from alcohol, and experiences with drinking.

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Please listen to your comfort level.

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Greetings and salutations.

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Welcome to, sorry.

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That's my inside voice.

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I'm your host Ka Garcia, and in this episode I got to sit down and talk with one of my favorite humans, My friend Tricia buck.

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We talk about her decision to abstain from alcohol for 2025.

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How that process has gone for her, our experiences drinking and, you know, of course some other shenanigans.

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So thank you for tuning in.

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Enjoy the episode.

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And we're back.

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Woo.

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I always wanted to say that.

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And we're back.

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And we're back.

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And this time it's a new cord

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Uhhuh

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so no one can chew on it.

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Oh yeah.

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Excellent.

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And destroy our recordings.

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Cut it off.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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And just spend three hours talking.

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Nothing recorded.

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Nothing recorded.

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Yeah.

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Cause

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Or just silence.

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Christ

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fucking, I wonder who would've done that?

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Ala.

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Mm-hmm.

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Do you know?

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No.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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Well, alright.

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I am here talking with my lovely friend, Trisha.

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Trisha, do you wanna introduce yourself?

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Hello, I'm Tricia and I am.

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Here for a good time.

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Not for a long time.

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What's the other one we came up with today?

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Uh oh.

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A low ball is better than, no, no ball.

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Yeah.

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At the garage.

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Tricia had a garage, an estate sale.

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That ended today.

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Yes.

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It was three days.

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It's very successful transitioning.

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That's what Transitioning in life.

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Transitioning in life

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in all the ways.

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Yeah, but it's good and bad.

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I mean, this year, this year's been a lot of transitions in general, but it's been a lot of transitions for you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I have a lot of things, but, um,

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and this, you know,

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delayed processing, like I say, yeah, I have a little bit of delayed processing.

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I'll do that later.

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That's so real.

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I mean, and it's easier you get to compartmentalize.

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Yeah.

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And you gave up drinking.

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I gave up drinking.

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Let's talk about that.

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Let's talk about that.

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Okay.

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I gave up drinking for a year for no particular reason.

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I have no issues with binge drinking, those kinds of things.

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It was more of a disciplinary thing.

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I just wanted to see.

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I've never chosen to do anything disciplinary like that, so I just decided to do it to see if I could.

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Not do something that I like doing for a year.

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Yeah.

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And it's fine.

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Like I don't, I can't really report that I'm like super upset about it or

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Yeah.

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Anything like that.

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But it's been a challenge because my friends, you know, didn't stop drinking.

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So I have Dr.

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Pepper.

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You, do you have a Dr.

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Pepper?

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I try to have just

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Dr.

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Pepper.

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I try to have soda options.

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Yeah.

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What do I have today?

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I do love a soda and I give

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that up.

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Oh, I've got, I've got ginger ale.

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Because Ginger, I am in fact an old person as we have established, um, many times.

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Many times.

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There's some fresca, there's cranberry, raspberry juice, Uhhuh, uh.

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There's probably other things.

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Mm-hmm.

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I could make you tea.

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Like so many options.

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You have wonderful teas.

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I have so many tea options.

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You have

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bougie teas?

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I do.

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I like anything with bougie.

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I do.

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Although I did discover it was suggested to me by the Safeway app Uhhuh, because sometimes it likes to be like, I think you'd like this.

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I'm like, no I don't, but maybe I do.

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I'm gonna try.

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So they had this box, it's like, it's like 50 tea bags, Uhhuh, and it's like.

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English tea.

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That's the type of tea.

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Uhhuh.

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Black English tea.

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Just black tea.

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Yeah.

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Doesn't tell me anything about it.

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I try it doesn't have a particular flavor characteristic.

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Uhhuh like, you know, bergamot tastes like Earl Gray tastes very bergamot tea.

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Yeah.

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Because, you know, um, oolong tastes very earthy, like whatever.

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So it's got nothing to help you figure out what it,

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no.

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There, there are no.

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Distinguishing qualities that I've been able to find about this tea.

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But God damnit, if I don't enjoy drinking it, it's good.

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It's good.

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That's what I had in my mug today, that I slurped down.

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Oh yeah.

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But I'm like, is it like you, have you ever had Dutch rose tea?

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I swear that's my favorite.

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Like hot tea?

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No, I just like their tea.

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I don't think I ever realized

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they have tea.

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I know they have chai.

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They have tea.

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Just tea, huh?

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Well.

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It's their black tea.

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That's good.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Like I don't, I don't really like green tea, so I don't drink it.

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Yeah.

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But their black tea is Paris Tea.

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I was drinking it so much that I was like, I need to find this more affordably.

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So I asked the girl like, what kind of tea is it?

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And she said, Paris Tea.

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So I went and looked it up and you can buy it on Amazon.

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It's not cheap tea.

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Yeah.

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It's, but it's good.

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Teas delicious.

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It's like got a flowery sweetness to it that,

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Ooh.

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I don't know.

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I love it.

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That sounds really good.

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I like the flavor.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But no, so it's just like, it's like black tea.

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I'm like, okay, black tea.

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Just black tea.

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Like, all right.

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Like that L, right.

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It's just like, it's like generic.

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It's like Folgers.

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It's like Folgers.

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Yeah, but it's British and it's tea

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all I like that.

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Yeah.

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So it's just like a generic, regular, old, regular.

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And it's in a purple box, British tea.

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Clearly they marketed it well.

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'cause it's in a purple box.

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Yeah.

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Um, yeah.

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So that was my, that was my tea ramble for, for this adventure.

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I love good tea.

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So none of your friends stopped drinking?

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I know.

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I, nobody stopped drinking.

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Did not stop drinking.

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Um, they're all courteous to me.

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Like all, every, all of you are like, except for the love my life.

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Cindy, bless her.

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She's like, you're an idiot.

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I'm gonna make a dream.

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Get out my house.

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I mean, the, the, you picked an interesting year to give up drinking.

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I think I

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did a lot going on this year.

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Mm-hmm.

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In the world and my life.

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Uhhuh, uh, so interesting.

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Interesting.

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More on the disciplinary front, you know, like that's just Yeah.

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To be disciplined.

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So what made you feel like you wanted to discipline yourself?

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Ooh.

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Discipline.

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I

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met,

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I yes, I I have met you.

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This one

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person of anything in the world.

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The

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people listening might not have met you.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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Well, I realize I, I just don't, you know, I am very Gemini in that way.

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I don't stick with things.

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I fly with the wind, you know?

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Yeah.

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I just go with it.

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And if I'm doing something and I'm like, this is not making me happy anymore, I just stop doing it.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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And drinking was just not making you happy or was it stressing you out?

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No, I was fine with drinking.

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It's the, when the not drinking doesn't make me happy anymore.

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I have to remain sober.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That makes sense.

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And that's

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the challenge part of it.

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'cause it's, I mean, and drinking is like a thing, it's also a social thing.

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Right.

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Uh, there was a while there where I, I would go to, so I'd have a bit of a little panic because normally I'd, I'd drink socially and then, you know

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Right.

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I don't sit and drink alone or anything.

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But

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Yeah.

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Um,

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is it alone if it's with your cat?

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No.

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Great.

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You're not alone.

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Yes, I'm set.

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You are not alone.

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Your cats are here always.

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They're always fucking here.

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I can't go to the bathroom.

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Can't away from them.

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No.

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I've had to evict them from the office multiple days this week.

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Internal toddlers.

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You're never gonna get away from'em.

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Nope, not ever.

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They'll hunt you down

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ever.

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Ever.

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They'll find you.

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They often do.

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Yeah.

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So that is the challenge part is, um.

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To not just like be, do whatever I want.

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Yeah.

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Even when I want to like be loosey goosey and have a good time and have a drink.

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No.

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Do you feel like it forced you?

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Not forced you, but Hold on a second.

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This is doing dumb shit.

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Are we going?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I was like, why are you moving?

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Um, do you feel like it forced you to find different ways to be social or have to Oh, be social?

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It forced me

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differently.

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It forced me to, yeah.

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Be social differently.

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Yeah.

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Because I, I like having fun.

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I like you are a good time.

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I don't like feeling anxious when I'm with people.

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So if I am with people and.

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I would just, you know, have a drink and if I wouldn't have like 15 drinks, but you know, just a couple sips and or having something in your hand.

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Anything like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Can, like you do with knitting.

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Yes.

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It, uh, sort of makes you relax little, it little it regulates you.

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Yeah.

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Speaking of which, let me just roll over here and grab it.

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Yeah.

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It regulates you Totally.

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Not that you're dysregulating me, but it's weird sitting and not getting Yeah.

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Because that's what you do, is what I, people, people worry when I'm Yeah.

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Not knitting, which I think is, yeah.

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I always feel like when I,

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funny, I don't really overly think about it, but when I do talk about it, I'm like, well, it sounds like I rely on drinking to like lose, you know, relax my, and I mean, everyone does a little bit Yeah.

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If you're a social drinker, but it's not, um, it's not an extreme thing, you know?

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No.

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It's just

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a no.

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I mean, I never thought it was, yeah.

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Definitely.

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But, um, what I remember in the, the early, like the first month, month and a half Yeah.

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You, if we were gonna go somewhere, it'd be like, Hey, do you wanna go?

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And you'd be like, well, where are you going?

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And we'd tell you and you're like, no, I don't wanna go.

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Yeah.

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Like, which, which made sense, you know, how can I maintain this?

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I do.

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I couldn't quite maintain it at that time.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Well'cause it's, it is still, or I

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wasn't confident there.

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Right.

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And it was something you were still adjusting to and it was still really new.

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Mm-hmm.

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But now like we can go places and you're like Yeah, I'm good.

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Yeah.

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I'm the dd.

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You are.

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You are.

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You're gonna be the DD for my birthday.

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I'm happy to do it.

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Just really entertaining.

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'cause you're gonna get some real good pictures of all of us being yahoos.

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I mean, we won't have videos of the back of the car like last year.

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We will the windows.

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Oh, we'll, okay.

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I

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mean, if Ellie's there, you're gonna get a video.

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That's true.

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She loves her videos.

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She does love her videos.

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She does.

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What was, what was the hardest?

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I love her.

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I mean, they're pretty funny.

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I, I enjoy them the most when I know they're happening.

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That's

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nice.

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No, that's actually like, what's the best part of it?

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I know it's the, it's the control.

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It's the Virgo in me that doesn't like that.

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I'm

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trying to swipe the camera away from her.

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Your phone or My personal favorite.

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I look over and she's holding it like this at me and I'm just, are you recording right now?

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Yes.

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The answer is always yes.

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She's always recording.

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She was always, yes, she was gonna do that.

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What was the thing that was hardest to adjust to about being out

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my own anxiety.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I never even thought of myself as an anxious person'cause I just never deal in those kinds of thoughts, you know?

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Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, I am a pretty socially anxious person and when I don't have a little drinky

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Yeah.

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Or something to sue that like, you know, I don't take medications for those kinds of things.

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So, um, I don't know, I just.

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I felt the feelings more.

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I recognized them more and I was like feeling the feeling because it's so rude.

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I can't have fun if I'm feeling like this.

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So I had to do a little bit of my own therapy.

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Thera.

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Pieing.

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Yeah.

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And you know, find ways to chill myself out a little bit and tell myself, oh, these people don't hate you.

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Correct.

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You're allowed to be here.

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You don't have anywhere else to be.

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That's one that always gets me is I'm always feeling like I gotta go.

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I got, I gotta rush this'cause I have something else, or the, oh,

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so and so needs me for something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I just gotta get back home or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Well, and none of that, and home is like your safe space.

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So like, you're like, I'm home.

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I'm in complete control.

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Well, yeah.

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Drop your pants and sit on the cat.

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It's true.

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I mean, you got here and I was like covered in cat litter dust, which is a whole other fucking story.

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Yeah.

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You dropped your pants just like I'm changing, you know, like There we go.

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My pants.

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To be fair, my pants weren't in my bag.

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Yes.

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And my bag was out here.

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And we're at that point in our relationship where I don't give a fuck.

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Get them thighs out girl.

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Oh my god, I love it so much.

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Oh my gosh.

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Well, and you, you and Rick both stopped drinking this year.

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Oh yeah.

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'cause Rick's not a big drinker anyway.

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He is not a big socializer or drinker or anything like that.

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So if I'm not, you know, saying, Hey, let's go, let's go out to Eaton, you know, let's go do the thing.

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Wine or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Then he's, he doesn't even think about.

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He's like, no, Uhuh,

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I'm good.

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What a thought in his head.

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Sweet baby angel about that.

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Well, and I remember talking with Ellie.

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I'm like, we feel really bad.

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'cause Rick bought us, he bought all this wine for the three of us to drink it.

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Now Trisha's not drinking.

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It'll be there.

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It'll be, and it'll age.

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It's gonna age like a fine wine.

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Plus the

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Robles cab Ss, they're aging wonderfully in, in that cabinet

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right now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They're,

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they're, they're well tended to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I remember I was, I was telling somebody who was it?

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I don't even know where I was.

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I wasn't with any of you, which was weird.

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Um, maybe it was a work thing.

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Anyways, I was talking to somebody and they're like, oh, what kind of, what kind of drinks do you like?

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And I'm like, oh, I, I like wine.

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I mean, I like other alcohol, but I'm like, if I got to pick, I'm always going to pick one.

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Um, and usually I will pick red wine.

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Mm-hmm.

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Although my recent conversion to Rose, it hurts.

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It hurts to say I like Rose, like I will actually ask for Rose when it's just me.

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But band, these are rose.

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Very, it is, for those of you who don't know, a Van Douser is a winery in the middle of Willamette Valley.

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Yeah.

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And it's delicious.

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Yeah.

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All length Van, the show notes, you've gotta go.

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Van Deus is a good one, but it's so lovely.

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They got a lot of good wine though.

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And that Rose man, it's good.

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They got a sparkly one and still, I like the still one.

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It's real.

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I still, um, I don't remember.

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It was, oh, someone asked me what kind of, what kind of, you know, wine or whatever.

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I said, oh, well I like this one called Purple Cowboy.

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And they're like, oh.

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Like, have you tried it a couple times?

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I'm like, no, no.

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That is my go-to.

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Yeah.

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Wine.

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Like I found it 10 years ago at Crush Wine Bar.

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It's the joint.

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Yeah.

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And it's like we in our farm home days,

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I only want that.

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It's so good and it's consistently so good.

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So Trisha's husband who loves us

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Purple Cowboy is from, is a plus rugby.

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That's why,

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and that's why you can drink it without a headache, which is perfect.

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So much.

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And, and, and Rick found out.

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That we loved this wine.

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Mm-hmm.

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And sweet angel that he is, he went and found it in bulk.

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In bulk on the internet.

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He got like, yeah.

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Two cases or something.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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It was all a purple cowboy.

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And you sent us, you sent us some picture.

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You're

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like, look at this.

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And we're like, what the heck?

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Because that's a lot of wine.

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Two cases.

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It

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was a lot of wine.

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So good.

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It's so good.

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I cannot not wait.

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When it hits my tongue, it'll be like, oh, this is

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delicious.

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Purple cowboy.

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Purple cowboy.

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It is.

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It's so freaking good.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's always good.

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And there's something about drinking wine.

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Yes.

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It's not like drinking other things.

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No, it's not.

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It's an experience and it, at first when you start drinking wine, you're like, this is.

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She's like, when you're a teenager and you have a beer, you're like, this is disgusting.

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Why do people do this?

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Yes.

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I did that with gin and tonics.

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My dad is a big g and t person.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so, you know, they'd let us taste that.

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We were not allowed to touch the bar to this day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It feels wrong.

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I will be 38 in like a week.

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You

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still feel like you can't touch the bar at their house.

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Correct.

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It feels like I should be.

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You have your

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own bar, so

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I know.

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Maybe that's why I've never put it in like a bar situation, Uhhuh.

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'cause then it would feel bad.

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Yeah.

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Um, but you know, dad would, they'd let us try whatever they were drinking.

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G and ts tasted the way gasoline smells.

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I was like, why would you drink this?

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This is horrible.

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Yeah.

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You're making gin.

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Terrible life

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choices.

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My favorite liquor.

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Yeah.

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Did you know Brett?

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And Richard were telling me this before you guys got there yesterday.

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Um, gin is just vodka infused with botanicals and obviously juniper berry.

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'cause I think all gins are juniper.

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Berry is the main Yeah.

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Component and then whatever else you put in there.

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But they're just vodka Really?

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Yeah, vodka with that.

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And a lot of, um, I don't know.

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A lot of things use those as their base.

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Vodka.

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I mean,

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you can make really good vanilla with vodka.

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Yes.

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Vodka is a very utilitarian, it's, yeah.

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Vodka is the potato of alcohol.

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Yeah.

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Which is funny'cause it's made because it could be made outta from potatoes.

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Potatoes doing the heavy lifting since God knows when.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like a lot of like homeopathic, um, you know, witchy vibe.

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Uh.

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I, why can I not think of the, what are they called?

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Potions.

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Tinctures.

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Tinctures.

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There we

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go.

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The base is, you know, a very low grade, however you say that.

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Vodka, like the low shelf, bottom shelf vodka.

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Yeah.

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And will give you a very good tincture.

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Interesting.

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For some reason, more po.

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I don't know, huh?

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Mm-hmm.

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Well,

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I

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learned something today.

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You don't have to buy the expensive stuff for that.

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That's good to know.

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Vodka is.

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You're mainly

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fancy gin.

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Gin is fancy vodka.

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There we go.

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Gin is fancy vodka.

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Yeah, it is.

00:20:00.510 --> 00:20:02.040
But the, I hate it.

00:20:02.040 --> 00:20:07.050
I used to hate gin and that's another thing that I had to like come around to, and now it's my favorite.

00:20:07.050 --> 00:20:08.641
It's my favorite alcohol gin.

00:20:09.391 --> 00:20:12.826
I, I like whiskey or whatever.

00:20:13.625 --> 00:20:14.105
I like whiskey.

00:20:14.776 --> 00:20:14.836
Oh,

00:20:16.276 --> 00:20:17.685
um, cognac.

00:20:17.895 --> 00:20:20.445
I also have discovered that I like cognac.

00:20:20.536 --> 00:20:22.455
Is cognac sweet or dry and

00:20:22.455 --> 00:20:23.296
brutal?

00:20:23.355 --> 00:20:24.260
Um, it's all brutal.

00:20:24.266 --> 00:20:24.915
It's sweeter.

00:20:25.066 --> 00:20:25.846
It's sweeter.

00:20:26.205 --> 00:20:37.935
Like, um, yeah, I got schooled about that yesterday because we just started because they drinks, they both drink whiskey.

00:20:37.965 --> 00:20:38.115
Yeah.

00:20:38.115 --> 00:20:38.385
Richard.

00:20:38.385 --> 00:20:38.536
And

00:20:38.925 --> 00:20:39.165
yeah,

00:20:39.465 --> 00:20:42.855
so we got on like, what is whiskey, what is scotch?

00:20:42.855 --> 00:20:43.996
What is bourbon?

00:20:44.596 --> 00:20:45.316
Ah, bourbon.

00:20:45.316 --> 00:20:46.695
That bourbon was the other one I was thinking of.

00:20:46.701 --> 00:20:46.980
Mm-hmm.

00:20:47.060 --> 00:20:52.006
So bourbon, sweet Scotch is actually whiskey made in Scotland.

00:20:52.816 --> 00:20:52.996
Yes.

00:20:52.996 --> 00:20:53.895
That's all it is.

00:20:53.986 --> 00:21:03.316
All whiskey made in Scotland is scotch and bourbon is made in Kentucky and bourbon is a type of whiskey that is sweet, sweeter.

00:21:03.556 --> 00:21:03.976
Okay.

00:21:04.576 --> 00:21:08.746
And then whiskey is just, uh, whiskey, uh, yeah, it's made of corn.

00:21:09.465 --> 00:21:09.766
There you go.

00:21:10.036 --> 00:21:11.205
And scotch is made.

00:21:11.205 --> 00:21:11.746
What's scotch,

00:21:12.105 --> 00:21:13.546
barley, peat and peat.

00:21:14.685 --> 00:21:15.885
A lot of Pete Moss.

00:21:15.976 --> 00:21:16.576
Pete Moss.

00:21:16.580 --> 00:21:16.651
Mm-hmm.

00:21:16.965 --> 00:21:17.836
They used, I watched.

00:21:17.865 --> 00:21:18.046
Okay.

00:21:18.046 --> 00:21:19.996
So I watched this documentary on Hulu a while ago.

00:21:20.296 --> 00:21:20.326
Uhhuh.

00:21:20.566 --> 00:21:21.105
Thank you.

00:21:21.556 --> 00:21:22.276
COVID-19.

00:21:22.276 --> 00:21:22.336
Yeah.

00:21:22.756 --> 00:21:29.266
Um, but it was about, I don't remember who it was.

00:21:29.415 --> 00:21:30.496
Glen Fitch, maybe.

00:21:30.496 --> 00:21:30.976
I don't know.

00:21:31.125 --> 00:21:33.796
It was some, um, distillery mm-hmm.

00:21:33.905 --> 00:21:34.486
In Scotland.

00:21:34.486 --> 00:21:39.526
And they used pea moss, uh, as like some of the, like the, they smoke it with pea.

00:21:39.526 --> 00:21:40.155
I don't remember.

00:21:40.365 --> 00:21:40.425
Yeah.

00:21:40.846 --> 00:21:42.796
But I'm like interest.

00:21:43.425 --> 00:21:44.236
Fascinating.

00:21:44.806 --> 00:21:46.756
They put, put it with whiskey.

00:21:46.935 --> 00:21:47.236
Yeah.

00:21:48.346 --> 00:21:50.381
Or Asian gives it that with whiskey, whatever you that

00:21:50.540 --> 00:21:51.461
sy blah blah.

00:21:51.651 --> 00:21:51.941
Yeah.

00:21:52.080 --> 00:21:52.500
Mm-hmm.

00:21:53.221 --> 00:21:53.661
I don't like,

00:21:54.796 --> 00:21:55.221
I like whiskey.

00:21:55.226 --> 00:21:57.705
I would say of all those bourbon, I would like bourbon.

00:21:57.705 --> 00:21:58.516
I don't like bourbon.

00:21:58.665 --> 00:21:58.935
Yeah.

00:21:58.996 --> 00:22:00.796
But of all those, it's the leaf.

00:22:00.796 --> 00:22:01.965
'cause it has a sweetness to it.

00:22:02.175 --> 00:22:04.996
I like cognac and Dad had me try it once.

00:22:05.236 --> 00:22:07.516
Um, he'd gotten some and I was like.

00:22:07.701 --> 00:22:10.661
I don't know if I like,'cause I smelled it and it smelled really sweet.

00:22:10.661 --> 00:22:11.020
Mm-hmm.

00:22:11.101 --> 00:22:14.145
And it is definitely on the sweeter side, but I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna like this.

00:22:14.145 --> 00:22:14.806
He's like, just try it.

00:22:14.865 --> 00:22:21.855
I'm like another, uh, very thre, but I didn't throw anything on the ground'cause I would've gotten in trouble.

00:22:21.855 --> 00:22:22.215
Mm-hmm.

00:22:23.326 --> 00:22:23.855
Uh, you love

00:22:23.855 --> 00:22:24.300
getting in trouble?

00:22:24.766 --> 00:22:33.256
Well, I, I do, but not when my dad gives me a beverage in a very nice glass, then I don't wanna break it and then hear about it for 12 years.

00:22:33.435 --> 00:22:33.526
Right.

00:22:34.276 --> 00:22:36.465
Um, but yeah, no.

00:22:37.590 --> 00:22:44.266
Cognac, Kodiak, unless I need a quickie, had that, unless I need a quickie drink.

00:22:44.506 --> 00:22:44.776
Mm-hmm.

00:22:45.076 --> 00:22:47.715
And then it's Malibu and Coke.

00:22:47.865 --> 00:22:53.506
Yeah, because I referred to my college undergrad days.

00:22:53.536 --> 00:22:55.036
Rum is the party alcohol.

00:22:55.096 --> 00:22:55.425
Yeah.

00:22:55.455 --> 00:22:56.810
I used to do party girl.

00:22:56.925 --> 00:22:57.736
I can't believe this.

00:22:57.736 --> 00:23:02.250
I used to do shots of Malibu, coconut rum, just like, and you

00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:04.246
were like, I'm hardcore, I'm gonna do this shot of Malibu.

00:23:04.500 --> 00:23:04.560
Yeah,

00:23:05.161 --> 00:23:07.411
but then I would have a shot of tequila.

00:23:08.070 --> 00:23:10.290
That's a bad combination.

00:23:10.320 --> 00:23:11.221
Yeah, you're throwing up.

00:23:12.300 --> 00:23:12.901
It was real bad.

00:23:13.486 --> 00:23:13.905
That's

00:23:13.965 --> 00:23:14.185
bad.

00:23:14.461 --> 00:23:16.230
That'd be like my early twenties.

00:23:16.951 --> 00:23:17.131
Yeah.

00:23:17.461 --> 00:23:18.451
That didn't last long.

00:23:18.451 --> 00:23:18.840
Because you're

00:23:18.840 --> 00:23:20.580
learning what those things do to your body.

00:23:20.611 --> 00:23:21.270
I mean, yeah,

00:23:21.270 --> 00:23:23.371
and like I can't stay up late.

00:23:23.851 --> 00:23:26.040
I have never been a stay up late kind of human.

00:23:26.101 --> 00:23:26.310
Yeah.

00:23:26.911 --> 00:23:27.601
It doesn't go well.

00:23:28.171 --> 00:23:28.861
I get moody.

00:23:29.461 --> 00:23:29.520
No.

00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:29.671
Yeah.

00:23:30.060 --> 00:23:33.226
Either I get, when I get start to get tired like that, I either get late.

00:23:34.711 --> 00:23:35.820
Happy giggly.

00:23:35.820 --> 00:23:36.750
I love everybody.

00:23:36.810 --> 00:23:36.901
Mm-hmm.

00:23:37.171 --> 00:23:40.141
Or I'm gonna start crying.

00:23:40.320 --> 00:23:40.471
Mm-hmm.

00:23:41.461 --> 00:23:42.151
No one look at me.

00:23:44.580 --> 00:23:45.601
I was just like, Hmm.

00:23:45.631 --> 00:23:47.040
What level of tired are we at?

00:23:48.361 --> 00:23:48.570
Yeah.

00:23:48.570 --> 00:23:48.631
Yeah.

00:23:49.590 --> 00:23:52.471
So was when you were, when you first started drinking?

00:23:52.681 --> 00:23:53.040
Mm-hmm.

00:23:53.625 --> 00:23:55.006
What did you start with?

00:23:55.185 --> 00:24:01.590
Well, when I was 12, no, I'm When I was 12.

00:24:01.851 --> 00:24:02.070
No,

00:24:02.221 --> 00:24:02.510
just

00:24:02.510 --> 00:24:02.711
kidding.

00:24:02.851 --> 00:24:03.550
That's amazing.

00:24:03.951 --> 00:24:04.310
I love you.

00:24:04.451 --> 00:24:09.855
You know when, you know like high school drinks, whatever was around is what you drink, bud Light ob.

00:24:09.915 --> 00:24:10.306
Yeah.

00:24:10.365 --> 00:24:10.905
Bud Light.

00:24:11.536 --> 00:24:12.046
I've heard that.

00:24:12.046 --> 00:24:14.415
See, I drink more my bike than probably anything in my life.

00:24:14.685 --> 00:24:19.036
I'm always interested to hear about other people's drinking experiences.

00:24:19.036 --> 00:24:22.846
Uhhuh, because I did not drink until like.

00:24:24.135 --> 00:24:26.445
Four months before I turned 21.

00:24:26.445 --> 00:24:26.476
Oh.

00:24:28.756 --> 00:24:29.655
And then, wow.

00:24:29.715 --> 00:24:36.645
And then I found out recently, as soon as I got home after my boyfriend at the time had taken me to his parents' house.

00:24:36.796 --> 00:24:36.885
Mm-hmm.

00:24:37.155 --> 00:24:40.246
Fed me a lot of toast to sober for me the fuck up.

00:24:40.246 --> 00:24:41.326
That's nice to have somebody do that.

00:24:41.385 --> 00:24:41.746
Yep.

00:24:41.806 --> 00:24:43.695
And then took me back to my parents' house.

00:24:43.786 --> 00:24:43.846
Yeah.

00:24:44.145 --> 00:24:48.046
I ran upstairs and immediately woke up my mother and told her all about my night.

00:24:49.365 --> 00:24:51.016
I found out about this like three years ago.

00:24:51.496 --> 00:24:51.855
Um.

00:24:52.155 --> 00:24:56.895
Um, but I'm, I'm always interested to hear about other people's alcohol experience.

00:24:56.895 --> 00:24:57.796
'cause I didn't,

00:24:58.756 --> 00:25:00.796
I I did do anything exciting.

00:25:00.796 --> 00:25:06.195
I did all of the things that you do that you're not supposed to do in high school.

00:25:06.195 --> 00:25:11.625
I did them, I don't know, 14, 15, 16 on

00:25:11.746 --> 00:25:11.955
Yeah.

00:25:12.826 --> 00:25:15.915
Um, you know, Raiders, I grew up in Colorado.

00:25:15.915 --> 00:25:16.006
Mm-hmm.

00:25:16.490 --> 00:25:16.711
So

00:25:17.026 --> 00:25:20.715
I always forget about Colorado in like your state trajectory.

00:25:20.776 --> 00:25:27.076
But yeah, the Southwest is where I did my growing years.

00:25:27.076 --> 00:25:31.425
New Mexico, Colorado mainly.

00:25:31.425 --> 00:25:32.296
Yeah, those two states.

00:25:32.806 --> 00:25:33.526
Love that.

00:25:33.915 --> 00:25:34.185
Love that.

00:25:34.185 --> 00:25:37.336
A little bit of Oklahoma as a very small child, but yeah.

00:25:39.105 --> 00:25:43.726
Uh, so yeah, we would, you know, field bonfires in fields.

00:25:44.205 --> 00:25:45.316
Did it check?

00:25:45.586 --> 00:25:45.826
Yeah.

00:25:46.395 --> 00:25:47.925
Camping check.

00:25:47.986 --> 00:25:48.346
Yeah.

00:25:48.346 --> 00:25:49.786
Drinking shouldn't be drinking.

00:25:50.806 --> 00:25:52.965
Um, you know, Jack Daniels.

00:25:54.405 --> 00:25:55.635
Check that off too.

00:25:55.875 --> 00:25:56.655
Checks that off.

00:25:56.776 --> 00:25:56.925
Alright.

00:25:57.885 --> 00:26:00.796
That's a, that's a, that's a waste or a bourbon or something like that.

00:26:00.796 --> 00:26:04.455
And that's terrible, but it's fun to drink when you're a kid.

00:26:05.236 --> 00:26:05.776
Alright.

00:26:05.776 --> 00:26:06.195
Mad dog.

00:26:06.195 --> 00:26:06.766
2020.

00:26:07.306 --> 00:26:07.996
I, yeah.

00:26:08.115 --> 00:26:08.685
Threw it up.

00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.836
I don't know anybody who hasn't thrown that up.

00:26:12.046 --> 00:26:12.105
Yeah.

00:26:12.105 --> 00:26:13.155
Who suggested that?

00:26:13.155 --> 00:26:13.361
Everyone has that.

00:26:13.846 --> 00:26:14.296
I'm in there.

00:26:14.296 --> 00:26:14.655
I dunno.

00:26:14.865 --> 00:26:15.135
Alright.

00:26:16.246 --> 00:26:17.415
The nineties were fun, man.

00:26:17.806 --> 00:26:18.046
Yeah.

00:26:18.230 --> 00:26:18.520
Yeah.

00:26:18.736 --> 00:26:21.855
Uh, that lovely background noise is, uh, miss Lucy.

00:26:21.976 --> 00:26:22.096
Mm-hmm.

00:26:22.665 --> 00:26:28.455
Uh, sharpening her razor beans because she's the only one who doesn't get to do spa day with anti Janessa.

00:26:31.365 --> 00:26:31.756
But

00:26:33.316 --> 00:26:33.476
I jumped.

00:26:33.510 --> 00:26:36.046
So you never drank until you're basically 21?

00:26:36.050 --> 00:26:36.131
Yeah.

00:26:36.131 --> 00:26:36.330
I mean,

00:26:36.760 --> 00:26:37.050
yeah.

00:26:37.395 --> 00:26:42.016
Like I would, I would try, I would try whatever my parents or their friends were drinking.

00:26:42.226 --> 00:26:42.435
Yeah.

00:26:42.435 --> 00:26:42.445
Yeah.

00:26:42.945 --> 00:26:43.756
But I never drank.

00:26:44.056 --> 00:26:44.296
Yeah.

00:26:44.625 --> 00:26:45.195
Um.

00:26:46.921 --> 00:26:48.961
But it was never a big deal in your life.

00:26:49.351 --> 00:26:49.891
No.

00:26:50.131 --> 00:26:51.391
Like I was forbidden.

00:26:51.721 --> 00:26:52.260
I mean, yeah.

00:26:52.260 --> 00:26:53.550
Like my folks

00:26:53.550 --> 00:26:53.790
were.

00:26:54.330 --> 00:26:58.980
Were always like, this is the bar where the alcohol is.

00:26:59.131 --> 00:26:59.250
Yeah.

00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:01.530
Don't go in there or you'll die, you know, whatever.

00:27:02.040 --> 00:27:10.290
Like a friend of mine who I've known since high school, we talked about it not too long ago, and she's like, the idea of opening the bar at your parents' house.

00:27:10.290 --> 00:27:10.351
Yeah.

00:27:11.671 --> 00:27:12.931
Still makes me feel uncomfortable.

00:27:15.300 --> 00:27:16.471
Just like, okay.

00:27:16.770 --> 00:27:18.300
Very serious.

00:27:18.421 --> 00:27:23.250
Um, but no, I didn't, I didn't do anything in high school.

00:27:23.790 --> 00:27:24.990
I didn't even smoke weed.

00:27:25.080 --> 00:27:30.510
I didn't smoke weed until I was 23.

00:27:30.601 --> 00:27:31.921
Yeah, 24.

00:27:32.431 --> 00:27:34.921
And then I went to sleep like.

00:27:35.580 --> 00:27:37.560
I did a bong hit, which I didn't know how to do.

00:27:37.560 --> 00:27:39.270
That's a lot of coordination.

00:27:39.270 --> 00:27:39.871
I did.

00:27:40.590 --> 00:27:42.631
Oh my, I didn't know what I was doing.

00:27:42.631 --> 00:27:44.701
So they're like, okay, just hold this.

00:27:44.971 --> 00:27:46.441
And when we tell you,

00:27:46.681 --> 00:27:46.980
yeah,

00:27:47.040 --> 00:27:47.520
breathe

00:27:48.721 --> 00:27:49.861
clear that chamber, babe.

00:27:49.951 --> 00:27:59.730
I don't breathe well anyways, so you can imagine like the, the lungs that basically came out of my body and within five minutes I was like passed out asleep.

00:27:59.826 --> 00:28:04.381
I bet that's, that was the first time I ever.

00:28:04.621 --> 00:28:06.240
I smoked anything.

00:28:06.361 --> 00:28:06.570
Yeah.

00:28:08.760 --> 00:28:10.020
Maybe I'd had some cigarettes by then.

00:28:10.770 --> 00:28:10.861
Yeah.

00:28:11.790 --> 00:28:13.500
But no, I didn't, I didn't do anything.

00:28:13.830 --> 00:28:19.891
I just, I wouldn't even have known where to find

00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:20.520
Yeah.

00:28:20.550 --> 00:28:20.971
Weed.

00:28:21.421 --> 00:28:21.601
Yeah.

00:28:22.020 --> 00:28:23.070
Which is hilarious.

00:28:23.520 --> 00:28:24.151
Um,

00:28:24.780 --> 00:28:24.931
yeah.

00:28:24.931 --> 00:28:26.851
I never just, people, my friends had it.

00:28:27.090 --> 00:28:27.421
Yeah.

00:28:27.421 --> 00:28:28.895
I, I'm not, I'm not.

00:28:29.375 --> 00:28:30.990
Well, and when, when I was, when

00:28:30.990 --> 00:28:32.040
I was a freshman in college.

00:28:32.520 --> 00:28:43.020
I was, I worked for the university, so like in exchange for work, the work I did for the university, like you, if you went and toured a college campus, you, my room was something that you go see.

00:28:43.171 --> 00:28:43.260
Mm-hmm.

00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:45.330
So I'd have it like staged and all this stuff.

00:28:45.361 --> 00:28:45.451
Mm-hmm.

00:28:45.691 --> 00:28:49.290
But in return for that, they covered like my room and board.

00:28:49.951 --> 00:28:50.070
Oh nice.

00:28:50.461 --> 00:28:55.560
But you couldn't get caught drinking or doing drugs or anything like that.

00:28:55.861 --> 00:28:56.921
And you know.

00:28:57.121 --> 00:28:57.181
Yeah.

00:28:58.201 --> 00:29:01.201
I'm like, I basically should have been raised Catholic, but whatever.

00:29:01.651 --> 00:29:02.191
Um,

00:29:03.151 --> 00:29:03.240
yeah.

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.326
You're having a very Catholic childhood,

00:29:04.645 --> 00:29:04.846
I guess.

00:29:05.086 --> 00:29:05.486
I dunno.

00:29:05.655 --> 00:29:06.006
Right.

00:29:06.421 --> 00:29:19.290
But I didn't even, even at that point, like if my friends, if I knew they were gonna drink, because there were a couple parents who were just like, if you're gonna drink and we know you are, do it here.

00:29:19.530 --> 00:29:19.740
Yeah.

00:29:19.980 --> 00:29:20.851
And be safe.

00:29:21.090 --> 00:29:22.020
And no one's driving.

00:29:22.290 --> 00:29:22.500
Yeah.

00:29:22.770 --> 00:29:25.830
But I would always tell them if you're, when you're ready to start.

00:29:26.461 --> 00:29:28.141
Drinking, tell me so I can leave.

00:29:28.141 --> 00:29:29.971
And my friends were always really cool with that.

00:29:30.030 --> 00:29:30.151
Mm-hmm.

00:29:30.931 --> 00:29:37.441
Um, they'd always be like, okay, so I, we're gonna go start getting things out.

00:29:37.590 --> 00:29:37.681
Mm-hmm.

00:29:38.070 --> 00:29:41.040
I'm like, okay, well I'm gonna, I was getting ready to pack up anyways.

00:29:41.040 --> 00:29:41.641
They're like, okay.

00:29:42.030 --> 00:29:42.691
And we said goodbye.

00:29:42.810 --> 00:29:44.161
Well, so it wasn't weird.

00:29:44.221 --> 00:29:44.520
Yeah.

00:29:44.526 --> 00:29:49.050
But it was not something I participated in.

00:29:49.111 --> 00:29:49.171
Yeah.

00:29:49.171 --> 00:29:51.060
And then my sophomore year I was an ra.

00:29:51.631 --> 00:29:51.871
Yeah.

00:29:51.901 --> 00:29:52.270
So they're like.

00:29:52.905 --> 00:29:55.756
Don't do the things that you're supposed to catch other people doing.

00:29:55.875 --> 00:29:56.056
Yeah.

00:29:57.435 --> 00:30:01.425
And then that was the, that was the year that I had alcohol.

00:30:01.935 --> 00:30:02.266
Mm-hmm.

00:30:02.715 --> 00:30:06.945
Um, but like that was, let's say like April or May.

00:30:06.945 --> 00:30:19.816
And I turned 21 in September, like the first time I ever got drunk, though very clear was at my friend Ashlyn's house for a party that I'd already told him I wasn't coming to.

00:30:20.355 --> 00:30:23.175
Well, because there's gonna be alcohol and this crazy shit.

00:30:23.175 --> 00:30:25.756
And I'm like, I'm like, not my scene not gonna go.

00:30:26.056 --> 00:30:27.705
But I was like, I'm coming.

00:30:27.705 --> 00:30:28.756
And they're like, what the fuck?

00:30:28.786 --> 00:30:29.476
Okay.

00:30:31.395 --> 00:30:36.405
Uh, I, as we know, hadn't had alcohol, so I didn't know anything.

00:30:37.395 --> 00:30:40.846
Um, but somebody was like, Hey, do you want a Long Island iced tea?

00:30:41.566 --> 00:30:41.596
Oh.

00:30:41.596 --> 00:30:43.425
And I was like, sure.

00:30:43.486 --> 00:30:44.236
Okay.

00:30:45.256 --> 00:30:47.056
Because I'd heard about Long Islands.

00:30:47.115 --> 00:30:47.476
Mm-hmm.

00:30:47.806 --> 00:30:52.996
Because my grandma made Long Island Mix and she had that for my mom and my aunt.

00:30:53.115 --> 00:30:54.405
Like that's what they got to drink.

00:30:55.066 --> 00:30:57.465
But I'd never had any, so I'm like, sure.

00:30:58.965 --> 00:31:02.836
Long Island iced teas don't taste like alcohol.

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.221
No.

00:31:04.665 --> 00:31:06.346
And if you don't tell somebody,

00:31:06.526 --> 00:31:07.905
but they have the most now.

00:31:08.115 --> 00:31:08.986
Yes they do.

00:31:09.375 --> 00:31:12.855
Yes, they, I downed that in like two minutes.

00:31:13.395 --> 00:31:14.415
I was just like, this is so good.

00:31:14.441 --> 00:31:14.961
I had a straw.

00:31:15.310 --> 00:31:16.121
This is alcohol.

00:31:16.560 --> 00:31:20.145
I, I just gone and then I got another one.

00:31:20.145 --> 00:31:20.296
Oh, okay.

00:31:21.256 --> 00:31:21.586
Yeah.

00:31:21.586 --> 00:31:23.715
So by, and that was like boom, boom.

00:31:24.046 --> 00:31:24.316
Yeah.

00:31:25.395 --> 00:31:27.855
Uh, we'd been there for like maybe an hour.

00:31:27.945 --> 00:31:28.066
Mm-hmm.

00:31:28.635 --> 00:31:39.766
And I was sitting on the second floor apartment railing on the balcony, like on the deck, just like hanging out and chatting with people and they're like, someone watching Kat.

00:31:40.665 --> 00:31:42.615
She is unsupervised.

00:31:43.155 --> 00:31:43.905
She can't die.

00:31:43.905 --> 00:31:45.976
Her parents will be so mad at all of us.

00:31:46.036 --> 00:31:46.096
Yeah.

00:31:46.576 --> 00:31:48.705
Because everyone, these are my high school friends.

00:31:48.705 --> 00:31:49.996
Like everyone knew everybody else.

00:31:50.236 --> 00:31:50.296
Yeah.

00:31:50.355 --> 00:31:54.046
Um, yeah, no, that was the first time I ever drank.

00:31:54.050 --> 00:31:54.181
Yeah,

00:31:55.965 --> 00:31:56.715
that's a long time

00:31:57.195 --> 00:31:58.576
Long Island iced teas man.

00:31:58.935 --> 00:31:59.086
Yeah.

00:31:59.381 --> 00:32:01.421
I, I have had very few since then.

00:32:01.421 --> 00:32:03.526
So you're pretty straight laced of Yes.

00:32:03.705 --> 00:32:05.500
I mean, maybe not in always, but as far as.

00:32:05.790 --> 00:32:05.851
Yeah.

00:32:06.121 --> 00:32:06.871
Alcohol and things like that.

00:32:06.931 --> 00:32:07.320
Yeah.

00:32:07.891 --> 00:32:14.070
Um, when I had friends who lived off campus, like I'd go to their house parties and stuff.

00:32:14.101 --> 00:32:14.191
Mm-hmm.

00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:22.260
Um, one night I had, this was in the quote unquote good old days.

00:32:22.651 --> 00:32:24.931
Um, and this was not a night where I was making food.

00:32:25.020 --> 00:32:28.576
If I was making food, I was usually sober.

00:32:29.445 --> 00:32:31.306
Because it involves like a stove.

00:32:31.816 --> 00:32:33.375
Not if I was making Mexican food though.

00:32:33.796 --> 00:32:35.056
That's what the tequila was for.

00:32:35.506 --> 00:32:43.006
Um, but I did four lime mics, lime mics.

00:32:43.276 --> 00:32:43.365
Mm-hmm.

00:32:43.935 --> 00:32:51.230
Um, I did a couple shot, or what was it, applesauce shops, which was apple pucker and gold schlager.

00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:52.431
Oh, Uhhuh.

00:32:53.566 --> 00:32:57.405
And then I did, I think a couple margaritas.

00:32:57.411 --> 00:32:57.631
Mm-hmm.

00:32:59.986 --> 00:33:01.336
And who knows?

00:33:01.695 --> 00:33:02.895
Oh, some jello shots.

00:33:03.105 --> 00:33:03.195
Mm-hmm.

00:33:03.766 --> 00:33:04.336
Top it off.

00:33:04.336 --> 00:33:08.655
I woke up the next day and for the first time I was still drunk.

00:33:08.806 --> 00:33:08.865
Wow.

00:33:10.395 --> 00:33:10.726
Yeah.

00:33:10.786 --> 00:33:18.195
And my mom was supposed to come get me that afternoon and she called me in the morning and I was like, mom, mom, mom.

00:33:19.125 --> 00:33:20.445
She would not stop like mom.

00:33:21.451 --> 00:33:22.800
I have to go throw up.

00:33:22.800 --> 00:33:23.941
I'll call you back.

00:33:26.641 --> 00:33:26.881
Yeah.

00:33:27.060 --> 00:33:29.010
So she came down'cause I didn't have a car.

00:33:29.010 --> 00:33:29.191
Right.

00:33:29.191 --> 00:33:33.270
Then she came down, picked me up, took me to Mocha so I could get a bean burrito.

00:33:33.631 --> 00:33:33.721
Mm-hmm.

00:33:34.560 --> 00:33:35.070
But you needed,

00:33:35.310 --> 00:33:39.601
which was full cat style, so you know, tortillas and beans.

00:33:39.810 --> 00:33:40.050
Yeah.

00:33:40.111 --> 00:33:40.921
Nothing else.

00:33:40.951 --> 00:33:41.131
Yeah.

00:33:41.580 --> 00:33:42.601
Ate that in the car.

00:33:43.530 --> 00:33:45.601
Made the mistake of closing my eyes.

00:33:45.691 --> 00:33:46.621
Opening my eyes.

00:33:46.651 --> 00:33:46.740
Mm-hmm.

00:33:48.030 --> 00:33:49.711
Puked out the side of my mom's car.

00:33:50.131 --> 00:33:52.411
Coming off the off ramp on Mary Street Bridge.

00:33:52.590 --> 00:33:52.621
Oh.

00:33:53.971 --> 00:33:58.651
And then we, I got home, she put me to bed on the couch and she lied to my dad when he got home from work.

00:33:58.651 --> 00:33:59.161
What's wrong with her?

00:33:59.191 --> 00:34:04.560
Oh, she's just, she got some kind of a stomach bug at school and I'm like, thanks.

00:34:04.560 --> 00:34:09.271
Well, yeah, but like I was very straight laced.

00:34:09.271 --> 00:34:09.630
Yeah.

00:34:09.931 --> 00:34:10.501
Always.

00:34:10.561 --> 00:34:11.791
It was like, oh, I don't do that.

00:34:12.030 --> 00:34:12.271
Yeah.

00:34:14.096 --> 00:34:15.076
You're a virtuous

00:34:16.590 --> 00:34:16.681
girl.

00:34:16.681 --> 00:34:18.396
I dunno if it was virtuous so much as just.

00:34:19.516 --> 00:34:20.686
Obliviousness.

00:34:20.865 --> 00:34:21.076
Mm-hmm.

00:34:21.315 --> 00:34:23.835
Because looking back, I'm like, oh, my friends were high.

00:34:23.985 --> 00:34:28.815
Like some of them were like high all the time because now I know things.

00:34:28.996 --> 00:34:29.235
Yeah.

00:34:29.416 --> 00:34:31.545
And I'm like two.

00:34:31.545 --> 00:34:33.405
Two does equal four.

00:34:33.706 --> 00:34:34.755
Oh.

00:34:35.266 --> 00:34:39.556
But you know, the fact that I wasn't drinking Yeah.

00:34:40.335 --> 00:34:43.755
Wasn't ever a problem for the people that I was around.

00:34:45.346 --> 00:34:47.231
So when you were like, I'm not gonna drink, I'm like, cool.

00:34:48.755 --> 00:34:49.056
All right.

00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:51.271
What can I do to make it more comfortable for you?

00:34:52.710 --> 00:34:55.081
Because I remember I'd be like, okay, so I think we're gonna do this.

00:34:56.010 --> 00:34:57.061
Are, is that okay with you?

00:34:57.061 --> 00:34:58.260
We can go somewhere else.

00:34:58.380 --> 00:35:01.440
Yeah, because I don't, I don't ever want people to feel uncomfortable.

00:35:01.891 --> 00:35:02.010
Oh yeah.

00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:06.181
I don't, I, well, especially early when you were, yeah.

00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:07.590
You were still like, not sure.

00:35:07.650 --> 00:35:08.010
Yeah.

00:35:08.286 --> 00:35:08.865
Not anymore.

00:35:09.056 --> 00:35:09.346
Yeah.

00:35:10.561 --> 00:35:15.510
I remember I was, I met up with a friend in Portland and.

00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:17.940
He doesn't really drink anymore.

00:35:18.001 --> 00:35:19.710
And I didn't know that at the time.

00:35:19.715 --> 00:35:19.996
Mm-hmm.

00:35:20.081 --> 00:35:30.570
And I had gotten, we were at some food carts and I'd gotten a beer and he was asking what I was drinking, and I'm like, oh, should I go order you something?

00:35:31.081 --> 00:35:34.201
And he's like, oh, no, I, I'm not, I don't really drink much anymore.

00:35:34.201 --> 00:35:34.635
I'm like, mm-hmm.

00:35:36.030 --> 00:35:37.380
Is it okay that I'm drinking?

00:35:37.501 --> 00:35:39.331
I'm like, I didn't know, so I didn't ask.

00:35:39.331 --> 00:35:39.931
And he's like.

00:35:40.635 --> 00:35:41.115
What do you mean?

00:35:41.115 --> 00:35:43.065
I'm like, well, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable.

00:35:43.065 --> 00:35:46.155
He's like, I don't think anyone's ever actually asked me that before.

00:35:46.545 --> 00:35:46.606
Yeah.

00:35:47.146 --> 00:35:48.885
Uh, so thank you Yeah.

00:35:49.096 --> 00:35:51.016
For being considerate, but no, that is a

00:35:51.016 --> 00:35:51.826
very considerate thing.

00:35:51.856 --> 00:35:52.576
Drink your

00:35:52.576 --> 00:35:53.085
beer.

00:35:53.235 --> 00:35:55.726
I'm like, okay, you can enjoy yours.

00:35:55.786 --> 00:35:56.146
Yeah.

00:35:56.235 --> 00:35:59.356
I just, I don't ever want Yeah.

00:35:59.565 --> 00:36:01.335
To cause people to feel uncomfortable.

00:36:01.371 --> 00:36:01.791
Mm-hmm.

00:36:01.931 --> 00:36:03.255
I'm like, oh, you're not drinking.

00:36:03.346 --> 00:36:03.885
Cool.

00:36:05.445 --> 00:36:06.585
How can I make this better for you?

00:36:06.585 --> 00:36:06.766
But like,

00:36:06.766 --> 00:36:07.405
doing that kind of stuff is.

00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:10.141
You know, dealing with the discomfort of it.

00:36:10.286 --> 00:36:10.576
Yeah,

00:36:11.010 --> 00:36:11.221
yeah.

00:36:11.876 --> 00:36:14.400
Was that, was that a hard part of it for you?

00:36:14.581 --> 00:36:15.420
Like the discomfort?

00:36:16.141 --> 00:36:16.170
Oh

00:36:16.291 --> 00:36:16.530
yeah, that was, yeah,

00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:29.701
it wasn't like an extreme discomfort, but it was difficult to deal with because normally I'd be like, like I said, I'm not very disciplined, so I'd be like, okay, well I'll just have a drink and, you know, it'll be fun.

00:36:30.061 --> 00:36:30.391
Yeah.

00:36:30.541 --> 00:36:34.681
Well, and so many, so like you were talking about earlier, like there's so many things that are social.

00:36:35.251 --> 00:36:35.431
Yeah.

00:36:35.431 --> 00:36:37.110
That have like a drinking component.

00:36:37.141 --> 00:36:37.380
Yeah.

00:36:37.471 --> 00:36:44.130
Like even, you know, and things just start out, like book club, my book club, we drink wine.

00:36:44.431 --> 00:36:44.581
Yeah.

00:36:44.585 --> 00:36:44.635
Yeah.

00:36:45.510 --> 00:36:47.221
That is from day one.

00:36:47.431 --> 00:36:48.990
It's been about wine and books.

00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:49.320
Yeah.

00:36:49.740 --> 00:36:50.130
So,

00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:53.161
I mean, book club meets at the wine bar sometimes.

00:36:53.431 --> 00:36:53.760
Yeah.

00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:54.780
A lot of times.

00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:54.960
Yeah.

00:36:56.610 --> 00:36:57.570
It's mostly at

00:36:57.570 --> 00:36:57.835
the morning.

00:36:58.121 --> 00:36:58.320
Yeah.

00:36:58.891 --> 00:36:59.280
Yeah.

00:37:00.121 --> 00:37:03.985
And you've, you've met up with us there a couple of times or we've bumped into you while you're there.

00:37:03.985 --> 00:37:04.266
Yeah.

00:37:06.271 --> 00:37:10.440
It was like, it's just Well, and I feel like people who know you Yeah.

00:37:10.530 --> 00:37:11.911
Know that you're not drinking.

00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:12.360
Yeah.

00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.501
And no one, I haven't been around you when anyone's made a big deal about it.

00:37:16.650 --> 00:37:16.800
No.

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:18.721
I mean, aside from Cindy comments at once.

00:37:19.231 --> 00:37:19.411
Yeah.

00:37:20.311 --> 00:37:22.800
But when you are gonna tell your mother apparently, you just have to.

00:37:23.221 --> 00:37:25.291
Um, but yeah, no, I don't think.

00:37:26.521 --> 00:37:26.791
Yeah,

00:37:27.300 --> 00:37:27.541
yeah.

00:37:29.701 --> 00:37:29.911
Yeah.

00:37:29.911 --> 00:37:32.865
Not, um, I'm not uncomfortable and I only have a few more months left.

00:37:32.865 --> 00:37:33.065
Yeah.

00:37:33.420 --> 00:37:37.231
And I will have a delicious purple cowboy.

00:37:38.371 --> 00:37:39.630
Happy fucking New Year's.

00:37:40.141 --> 00:37:46.561
Well, that was, you said something the other day, you said we were working on, we were working on garage sale stuff.

00:37:46.891 --> 00:37:47.670
Maybe that's what we were doing.

00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:51.181
And you're like, God, I could really go for a glass of wine right now.

00:37:51.181 --> 00:37:51.271
Yes.

00:37:51.271 --> 00:37:55.065
Like, I mean, you could, and you're like, no, there's a level of

00:37:55.065 --> 00:37:55.346
stress.

00:37:55.416 --> 00:37:56.425
There's a level of stress.

00:37:56.490 --> 00:38:00.690
But you were like, no, my desire to make it to the end of the year and do this.

00:38:00.690 --> 00:38:00.701
Yeah.

00:38:01.351 --> 00:38:04.920
For myself is so much stronger than my need for a glass of wine.

00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:05.610
I'm like, cool.

00:38:05.610 --> 00:38:06.630
I love that for you.

00:38:06.721 --> 00:38:08.340
I'll drink some extra in your honor.

00:38:08.460 --> 00:38:10.146
Yeah, please do.

00:38:10.411 --> 00:38:11.010
I do.

00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:11.791
I do.

00:38:11.791 --> 00:38:14.521
I cheers the cats and you know, whatever.

00:38:14.731 --> 00:38:14.911
Yeah.

00:38:15.721 --> 00:38:23.701
But even, even with, so like you stop drinking and other friends like cut back on their drinking.

00:38:23.701 --> 00:38:24.865
Yeah, I guess so.

00:38:25.166 --> 00:38:25.385
And.

00:38:27.510 --> 00:38:31.981
I feel like I cut back on my drinking because I'm, I think so I've noticed I'm very social.

00:38:31.985 --> 00:38:33.811
I'm a, I'm a social drinker also.

00:38:33.811 --> 00:38:33.871
Yeah.

00:38:33.931 --> 00:38:36.451
Like will I, I also, I cook with wine.

00:38:36.811 --> 00:38:37.021
Yeah.

00:38:37.021 --> 00:38:41.280
And I'm like, well, not always, but I'm like, yeah, I'll have a little wine while I'm cooking.

00:38:41.311 --> 00:38:41.581
Yeah.

00:38:42.061 --> 00:38:47.221
But lately I haven't been able to, like, if I open a bottle, I'll have a glass.

00:38:47.311 --> 00:38:47.641
Yeah.

00:38:47.731 --> 00:38:50.010
And then I put it on the counter.

00:38:50.221 --> 00:38:50.431
Yeah.

00:38:50.971 --> 00:38:52.501
And I don't think about it.

00:38:52.621 --> 00:38:54.391
And then a week goes by and I'm like.

00:38:55.456 --> 00:38:57.045
Oh, this is vinegar.

00:38:57.195 --> 00:38:57.885
She's gone back.

00:38:58.005 --> 00:39:00.166
I'm like, could, is this still good for Stew?

00:39:01.036 --> 00:39:01.965
The answer is yes.

00:39:02.025 --> 00:39:11.985
Yeah, the answer is yes, but you know, so I, I too have bing, but I'm also like, I will still drink just less.

00:39:12.766 --> 00:39:13.936
And I'm more mindful of about like,

00:39:15.675 --> 00:39:17.505
I can remember two occasions.

00:39:17.956 --> 00:39:23.115
I mean, this is not, it's not like, you know, alcohol has not touched these lips in a year because I.

00:39:23.115 --> 00:39:27.135
I think there were two different, oh, Ella, Abby.

00:39:27.976 --> 00:39:33.795
Abby got a mar uh, a margarita at, you know, our, our little spot over there.

00:39:33.831 --> 00:39:34.121
Yeah.

00:39:35.925 --> 00:39:38.956
And I tasted it just'cause it, I wanted, I never tasted.

00:39:38.956 --> 00:39:39.016
Yeah.

00:39:39.045 --> 00:39:41.686
So I gave it a sip, but I pina colada too.

00:39:41.686 --> 00:39:41.715
Oh,

00:39:41.925 --> 00:39:42.525
pina colada.

00:39:42.556 --> 00:39:42.885
Yeah.

00:39:42.891 --> 00:39:43.001
Yeah.

00:39:43.036 --> 00:39:47.115
I think that's just twice I've,'cause I wanted to taste it, not because Yeah.

00:39:47.115 --> 00:39:47.135
You know?

00:39:47.655 --> 00:39:47.925
Yeah.

00:39:47.925 --> 00:39:49.425
So it was, it's not like even.

00:39:49.606 --> 00:39:52.155
It is not really about the alcohol, right.

00:39:52.155 --> 00:39:54.076
It's about can I do, can I be disciplined?

00:39:54.646 --> 00:39:54.945
Yeah, yeah.

00:39:54.945 --> 00:39:56.476
And you have, yeah.

00:39:56.956 --> 00:39:58.036
Like you're doing

00:39:58.036 --> 00:39:58.246
the thing.

00:39:58.695 --> 00:39:58.876
I'm

00:39:58.876 --> 00:40:04.996
proven to myself that I can decide to do something and actually finish it.

00:40:05.326 --> 00:40:05.536
Yeah.

00:40:05.536 --> 00:40:07.246
And you have, yeah.

00:40:08.356 --> 00:40:09.851
Look at you now.

00:40:09.851 --> 00:40:10.411
Look at me.

00:40:10.601 --> 00:40:11.170
Look at you.

00:40:12.721 --> 00:40:13.210
It's good.

00:40:13.606 --> 00:40:14.385
Yeah, it's been good.

00:40:15.525 --> 00:40:18.590
And um, and I don't even remember it most time, unless in.

00:40:19.516 --> 00:40:22.876
Until it comes up and someone is like, oh, you're not drinking right now.

00:40:22.876 --> 00:40:24.255
I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:24.255 --> 00:40:24.706
No, I'm not.

00:40:24.885 --> 00:40:25.096
Yeah,

00:40:26.266 --> 00:40:27.016
I don't even think about it.

00:40:27.195 --> 00:40:27.436
Yeah.

00:40:27.675 --> 00:40:27.945
Yeah.

00:40:29.536 --> 00:40:36.425
I remember I made something, I don't know, it was like springtime and I put wine in it and I was like, I put wine in this.

00:40:37.110 --> 00:40:37.920
Can you have it?

00:40:38.130 --> 00:40:38.311
Yeah.

00:40:38.311 --> 00:40:41.161
I don't know if that's part of your, your, your guidelines and you're like,

00:40:41.190 --> 00:40:42.360
that alcohol got cooked off.

00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:42.721
No, it's

00:40:42.721 --> 00:40:45.001
cooked off and I really want whatever you made.

00:40:45.001 --> 00:40:45.751
I'm like, okay, great.

00:40:45.931 --> 00:40:47.190
It was like soup or something.

00:40:47.221 --> 00:40:48.206
Yeah, because of course it was.

00:40:48.266 --> 00:40:49.681
Of course you make delicious soup.

00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.411
The stew I made last time was real good.

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Oh

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my gosh.

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They're all good.

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I gotta make, it's chicken, it's soup season.

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Make the chicken and the, I don't know what you have in it.

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It's delicious.

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Oh yeah.

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The, you made some coconut milk.

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Oh yeah.

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When I make

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like the, the chicken coconut curry soup stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Drop some, some dumplings in there.

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Mm-hmm.

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So good.

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You make good soup.

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Not even hungry right now.

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And now I wanna make soup.

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I'm a little hungry.

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I gotta say I'm a little hungry.

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Oh, well then maybe we'll go make you some soup a little.

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So you make a little soup.

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I might make us a little soup.

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Make a little soup.

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Alright, well let's just wrap this up and go eat some food.

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Alright.

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Alright, well, okay, thanks.

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Okay, bye.

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